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traildriver
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:35 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | traildriver:
A point worth pondering:
I wonder why the White House was using CONTINENTAL TRAILWAYS instead of GREYHOUND?
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I can’t say for certain, but the fact that Continental had its headquarters right there in Dallas, had a larger route network in Texas, and a larger fleet in the area, as well as probably very well connected with Texas politicians, all may have had some bearing… |
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:47 am Post subject: |
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traildriver:
I had forgotten that TRAILWAYS had their HQ in Dallas; that, indeed, could have very well been one of the deciding figures here, that, and, as you said, the company night have had strong ties with Texas politicians..............
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Regarding Dallas and SGL:
".....effective January 1, 1932, SOUTHWESTERN abandoned it service west of Dallas, turning passenger over to SOUTHLAND instead, and listed the Missouri Pacific's exiting Memphis-Brinkley run in its timetable as connections instead of stating through trips at Memphis. Through St. Louis-Memphis-Dallas service was still operated......."
"........according to a January, 1939, SWG system timetable showed both SWG and LEE WAY running over the Amarillo-Raton route (SWG had purchased this route from LEE WAY in May, 1940) TRAILWAYS timetables also showed LEE WAY's Amarillo-Albuquerque trips at that time, linking BOWEN MOTOR COACHES (Dallas-Wichita-Amarillo) with SANTA FE TRAIL TRANSPORTATION CO........"
(info from an old issue of MOTOR COACH AGE, dealing with the history of SGL)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Recall, also, that, by the early 1970's, EAGLE production had moved to Brownsville, Texas, where CONTINENTAL TRAILWAYS had opened its new bus building factory.
In the late 1950's, a new TRAILWAYS terminal opened in Houston, covering a half-block........
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Quick inquiry:
In November, 1963, did GREYHOUND and/or TRAILWAYS offer direct through service between Dallas and Washington DC, or was a change of buses required at some point, en route?
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Further on GREYHOUND (to Dallas)......
From my archives, I was just consulting a January, 1957 "EASTERN GREYHOUND (Transcontinental TT) and also came across a page (with route diagram) for "THE OLD HICKORY ROUTE" (East Coast-Memphis-Los Angeles)
Cities served:
NEW YORK
WASHINGTON
RICHMOND
NORFOLK
ROANOKE
KNOXVILLE
BIRMINGHAM
ATLANTA
NASHVILLE
MEMPHIS
DALLAS
EL PASO
LO ANGELES
SAN DIEGO
The way the line map is shown, there was a "loop", if you will, branching off the "main line", serving Richmond and Norfolk.
Between Knoxville and Memphis, there was a "cut off" which served Nashville.
At El Paso, one line went to Los Angeles, while the other continued on to San Diego.
The cover of this 1957 TT shows a SCENICRUISER; the cover also informs us that the buses ran via:
NEW JERSEY TURNPIKE
PENNSYLVANIA TURNPIKE
OHIO TURNPIKE
INDIANA TURNPIKE
NEW YORK STATE THRUWAY
OKLAHOMA'S TURNER TURNPIKE
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:15 am Post subject: |
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.....in a 1952 "TECHE GREYHOUND" tt, one "line map" for "THE MISSION TRAIL ROUTE" (Miami-Los Angeles/San Diego) lists the following cities:
MIAMI
JACKSONVILLE
LAKE CITY
TALLAHASSEE
MARIANNA
PENSACOLA
MOBILE
NEW ORLEANS
LAKE CHARLES
HOUSTON
SAN ANTONIO
DALLAS
FORT WORTH
EL PASO
PHOENIX
SAN DIEGO
LOS ANGELES
On the "line map", there is a "split" between Houston and El Paso; one line serves Dallas and Fort Worth, while the other line serves San Antonio......
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:27 am Post subject: |
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......the following is from a SOUTHERN KANSAS GREYHOUND LINES tt (1950); an ACF-BRILL IC-41 on the cover......
"MINNEAPOLIS-KANSAS CITY-LAWRENCE-INDEPENDENCE-TULSA-DALLAS-MEXICO CITY"
(SWG and DMC [CONTINENTAL DIXIE LINES] connections at Dallas)
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traildriver
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:39 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Quick inquiry:
In November, 1963, did GREYHOUND and/or TRAILWAYS offer direct through service between Dallas and Washington DC, or was a change of buses required at some point, en route?
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I don't have easy access to my "archives", to see exactly what services were offered at that time, but both companies had thru services at some times...
Trailways had several routes...American Buslines operated via Pittsburgh, Columbus, Indianapolis, St. Louis, and Oklahoma City, although by 1963 you would have to make one or two changes enroute between Washington and Dallas. Trailways carrier's did pool together to offer thru service between the two via Roanoke, Bristol, Knoxville, Nashville, Memphis, Little Rock, and Texarkana. Another thru route was via Richmond, Raleigh, Columbia, Augusta, Macon, Montgomery, Jackson, and Shreveport. Trailways also had some variations on the two southern routes, as this was the heart of the National Trailways network.
Greyhound also had a choice of northern and southern routes, which were a little different along the way from the Trailways routes. |
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