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161st St., 1964/Along 3rd Avenue/Da Bronx
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"DA BRONX"* (Tremont & Boston, 1971)......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153945

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*Note how "incomplete" MaBSTOA "Dangerfield" #4676 appears, without the distinctive script above the windows.

Note, too, the new "MTA" medallion.

Old Looks were then still recent memories......

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
"DA BRONX"* (Tremont & Boston, 1971)......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153945

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*Note how "incomplete" MaBSTOA "Dangerfield" #4676 appears, without the distinctive script above the windows.

Note, too, the new "MTA" medallion.

The latter (the MTA medallion) meant that the former (the distinctive scripts of both MaBSTOA and TA rolling stock) were to be consigned to the "distant memory" file. Besides, that light atop the standee windows in the center . . .
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"MaBSTOA'S CLASSIC ERA" (1969)*.....

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154201

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155824

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*How we took all this for granted.......

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"PASSING OF THE TORCH" (1970).......

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grand Concourse & Fordham Rd, 1972.

Still "wearin o' the green", first-generation Fishbowl MaBSTOA #3120 sports neither the old "OA" medallion, nor a new "M" insignia.........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153808

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Grand Concourse & Fordham Rd, 1972.

Still "wearin o' the green", first-generation Fishbowl MaBSTOA #3120 sports neither the old "OA" medallion, nor a new "M" insignia.........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153808

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

Of course it didn't carry the OA medallion, as it was a non-batwing. Only batwings from 6701-6900 and 8301-8780 carried them. This did, however, have the script above the standee windows. . . .
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

I STILL like picturing Old Looks sporting "OA" emblems in my mind...... Wink

IMHO, once MABSTOA buses were relieved of their stylized "OA" medallions and stylish script above the windows, the short-lived "classic" era for MaBSTOA was indeed over, gone far too early......

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thinking......

Given that "Da Bronx" was rapidly sinking into chaos by the late 1960's and early 1970's, had the closing of the 3rd Avenue El not happened, would MaBSTOA have taken delivery of the new Fishbowls?

I could see the oldest and most battered buses serving the area in those days, had they not been retired.

Speaking of buses replacing elevated trains, recall when "Tee-Yay" buses replaced the Myrtle Avenue El (with its ancient wooden rolling stock) in 1969.

I wonder what (at least initially) the headways were?

One single bus certainly could carry the amount of passengers that had been previously carried by an elevated train consisting of several cars.......

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Navy St. (1957/1969)........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117125

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?6782

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Navy St., circa-1954 (this one is a bit of an eye test).......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?87046

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Myrtle Avenue, 1955..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156987

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another 1955 Myrtle Avenue (at Vanderbilt) view.....

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?157004

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Myrtle Avenue..........

I know that when the Bronx 3rd Avenue El closed in 1973, MaBSTOA took delivery of new Fishbowls (T6H-5309A's)

When the Myrtle Avenue El closed in late 1969, were any new buses purchased for El replacement, or was the existing Myrtle Avenue bus route(s) simply "beefed up" to compensate for the loss of El service?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Myrtle Avenue..........

I know that when the Bronx 3rd Avenue El closed in 1973, MaBSTOA took delivery of new Fishbowls (T6H-5309A's)

When the Myrtle Avenue El closed in late 1969, were any new buses purchased for El replacement, or was the existing Myrtle Avenue bus route(s) simply "beefed up" to compensate for the loss of El service?

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Well, the point when the Myrtle Avenue el closed was when the "Em-Tee-Yay" was working out the details for the new set of 'Dangerfields' to be built by Flxible - 203 A/C units for the "Tee-Yay," 128 for MaBSTOA. I would hazard a guess that already existing bus service along the avenue saw some increase in the immediate wake of the el shutdown. How many of those Dangerfields were assigned to Myrtle routes, I wonder?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Thanks for this info.

For the longest time, it was my thinking that the "Em-Tee-Yay" simply "beefed up" bus service along Myrtle Avenue, after the El shut down.

It would be interesting to see how many "Dangerfields" ran along Myrtle......

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