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161st St., 1964/Along 3rd Avenue/Da Bronx
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W.B. Fishbowl



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
This dismal, depressing scene dates to 1981 (Hunts Point & Seneca)......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154049

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Seems upper Manhattan where that bus was headed wasn't that much better overall . . . north of 96th Street, apart from possibly the area around Columbia University, is of a way different world from south of 96th Street.

Wasn't it around this time that, on Bruckner Boulevard (actual building address: 20 Bruckner Boulevard) atop a building visible to those passing through the Willis Avenue Bridge, Golden Lights was advertising there?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B:

See the following:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Bronx *

*Be sure to read the sections "START OF DECAY"/"THE BRONX IS BURNING"........
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A rainy day in da Bronx (Broadway & 167th), 1972.......

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154220

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting reading*.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bronx

*(There's also a little bit of info under the heading "MASS TRANSIT")
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
A rainy day in da Bronx (Broadway & 167th), 1972.......

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154220

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Also Manhattan, nearer to (and across the street from) the Columbia-Presbyterian Medical Center complex. The black print on yellow background on the street signs should have been the tipoff ('da Bronx' street signs were white lettering, blue background back then). The (M)5 and (M)4 buses are another tipoff. The sign for the 5 would have dated to early 1971, when it was extended to the George Washington Bridge Bus Station; that same type was also on same vintage signs during changes to key Bx## bus routes that same year.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Back in the SURFACE/MaBSTOA/early MTA-eras, how many (about) off-street bus terminals were in use, if any, in da Bronx?

What about the present?

Thanks in advance for any input....

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Off-street" terminal, W. 42nd St......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154190

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155018

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"OFFSIDE PARKING"......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155544

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154209

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3rd Avenue & Fordham, 1978

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153933

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

St. Nicholas & Amsterdam, 1983.

It would seem that grungy, work-worn #8495 seems a bit "incomplete", to say the least..... Rolling Eyes

No ads of any sort are being displayed.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155889

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking almost as spiffy and shiny as a vintage tin litho toy bus, we see #8693 at Fort Washington & 176th St., back in 1983; note dash brackets for missing ad card panel......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156175

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bright, sunny (but slushy!) day here at Amsterdam Avenue & 161st St., winter, 1983.......

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154175

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
St. Nicholas & Amsterdam, 1983.

It would seem that grungy, work-worn #8495 seems a bit "incomplete", to say the least..... Rolling Eyes

No ads of any sort are being displayed.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155889

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And of course, there's the graffiti . . .
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Just curious......

Was economics (maintenance, etc.) at least partially the reason why batwings were eventually discontinued?

The "Em-Tee-Yay" was always looking to "trim costs", and not always in a manner conducive to the riding public....

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

May've had something to do with it. Didn't Transign by that point discontinue manufacture of those 'batwings', thus replacement parts for those that came off were difficult if not impossible to come by?
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