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Here's another NY Rys open car, seen here awaiting its next run......

www.newdavesrailpix.com/nyc/jpg/mnyr13.jpg

(courtesy: davesrailpix)

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A BRILL builders photo (from 1909) showing TARS convertible #851, the Company's first convertible.

It is easy to see how "those not in the know" could easily refer to such equipment as "open cars".

In the aforementioned Kate Simon book, "A BRONX PRIMITIVE", the Bronx "summer trolleys" described were indeed open cars, by the description of how the conductor swung along the length of the car on the running board, collecting fares......

www.newdavesrailpix.com/tars/htm/tars061.htm

(courtesy: davesrailpix)

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By the time TARS elderly convertibles made their last runs, the era of the true "open car"/"summer trolley" in New York had already been over for a number of years (here, car #1142 is seen holding down a run on the 145th St./Broadway line)

Finding photos of TARS open cars (especially those running out to Orchard Beach) seem to be rarer than the proverbial hen's tooth......

www.newdavesrailpix.com/tars/htm/tars132.htm

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History/operations of the "Bx12" line.......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bx12_bus

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See also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bus_routes_in_the_Bronx

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SURFACE buses seen in 1949's "ON THE TOWN"........

www.imcdb.org/vehicle_282235-Mack-C-45-DT-1948.html

www.imcdb.org/vehicle_282236-Dodge-COE-WFM-35-1947.html

(courtesy: imcdb.org)

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From the same film (note IRT kiosk to the right of the bus):

www.imcdb.org/vehicle_390336-Yellow_Coach_718-1934.html

(courtesy: imcdb.org)

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This scene is from "CLAUDINE" (1974)

Here, batwing Fishbowl #8436 is signed:

"100 RIVERVALE CITY LINE"

www.imcdb.org/vehicle_369020-GMC-TDH-5306-1966.html

(courtesy: imcdb.org)

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Here is another shot from "CLAUDINE"; the photo quality is not at all that good, but you can spot two Fishbowls......

www.imcdb.org/vehicle_369053-Dodge-Polara_1972.html

(courtesy: imcdb.org)

[W.B. Fishbowl]

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W.B.:

As always, appreciate your input.

You mentioned the service changes of the January, 1971; how did these changes affect MaBSTOA routes?

Thanks for any info......

"NYO"

[W.B. Fishbowl]

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W.B.:

Exactly what I wanted to know.....thanks!

Back in the day, before computer programming, etc., it had to have been quite interesting, to say the least, when the Traffic Department of the "Tee-Yay", MaBSTOA, etc., had to draw up plans, and make changes in routes, scheduling, etc., when formerly two-way thoroughfares became one-way, routes "split" into branches, etc.

Too, over the course of several decades, there were/are service changes that come about due to changing travel patterns, changing demographics, etc.

This is bringing to mind massive redevelopments, such as Battery Park City, a huge tract of filled-in area that was originally the location of chock-a-block piers, wharves, and ferry terminals.

Over the years, when new, large-scale developments rise, that, also, would (IMHO) see the need for new/modified bus services, especially if said area is a hefty walk from the nearest subway line.......

"NYO"

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......changing two-way thoroughfares into one-way had to have made for interesting bus route changes.

From: "NEW YORK CITY TRANSIT BUSES" (Greller):

".......most of the routes remained the same after the creation of MaBSTOA. Manhattan route changes were largely the result of combining routes, due to avenues being converted to one-way traffic......"

"......one result was the elimination of the former OMNIBUS Route 5 being taken over by Route 6, when Broadway and Sixth Avenue became one-ways......."

".......some former SURFACE routes in the Bronx were changed or combined......"

One of the things I have often thought about was why the changeover, after so many years, from two-way streets into one-ways......more efficient traffic flow?

"NYO"

[W.B. Fishbowl]