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October 31, 1956: An Era Ends In Brooklyn
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Atlantic Avenue, Brooklyn, circa-late 1930's.

Note the "BROOKLYN BUS CORPORATION" bus on the right; any information on this company?

"NYO"

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?112848

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

A BMT subsidiary which operated bus routes in the borough. I wonder if it was why, on bus transfers in the 'Tee-Yay' era, they had some routes listed as "Brooklyn Bus Division" and others as "BMT Bus Division" - with the latter presumably old B&QT streetcar routes (whether the old-style Peter Witt/PCC or "trackless trolley buses").

But the font on the sides of the exterior - I wonder if it was that to which the distinctive serif numerals were related.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Thanks, as always, for your input; for some reason, I had forgotten what I had read in my copy of "BROOKLYN TROLLEYS" (Greller/Watson):

"......on June 1, 1929, the BMT simplified the operation and ownership of all surface, bus, and elevated lines by forming the B&QT......"

"..........the BMT had already organized the "BROOKLYN BUS CORPORATION" on July 2, 1924, to operate the various bus routes which were created as feeders to the trolley lines....."

".....this company became a subsidiary of the newly-former B&QT in 1929....."

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flatbush & 3rd, 1980.

Here, we see four Flex New Looks, sporting different paint schemes, with the "Tee-Yay" green, of course, being the oldest (quite late in the game to see any bus still in "Tee-Yay" green!)......

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154768

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Flatbush & 3rd, 1980.

Here, we see four Flex New Looks, sporting different paint schemes, with the "Tee-Yay" green, of course, being the oldest (quite late in the game to see any bus still in "Tee-Yay" green!)......

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154768

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

Notice, in the background, the time display on the Dime Savings Bank sign situated at Flatbush Avenue Extension; this appears to be the second such display, a 9 x 14 numeral array put up around the 1970's, as closeup here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/thetruthabout/3020839176/

and an artist's rendition of what the time would have looked like:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/24498044@N03/51365960419/

It replaced an earlier time display (of 7 x 11 numeral array) which was in place as of c.1968 as shown in a book of photos of the city in that period taken by a chap named Klaus Leihnartz:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/67827566@N00/2094640480/
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Great stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!

How we all took such once-commonplace, now-classic signage for granted!

Such signs truly help "date" old transit photos, as does such long-departed, "old school" street hardware as two-light traffic signals and incandescent street lighting.

Getting back to the buses in that photo, it was indeed interesting to see that pack of Flexies all sporting different schemes; as I had noted earlier.

That Flexie still in 1960's "Tee-Yay" green had to be one of the last such buses still in service (paint-wise)......

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And to think it preceded the first of several "hooks" for the Grumman fleet (as in the old vaudeville "giving them the hook") . . .
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B. Fishbowl wrote:
And to think it preceded the first of several "hooks" for the Grumman fleet (as in the old vaudeville "giving them the hook") . . .


W.B.:

Now THAT is a GREAT definition of "LONG LASTING"! Shocked

Talk about a "CURTAIN CALL"!!!! Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marcy & S. 4th, circa-1950.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?118066

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A photo from 1972 of 1969 Flx #4026 plying the B63 to Shore Road along Flatbush Avenue; it is farther along than the 1980 pic, as the Dime Savings Bank sign and jump clock are farther away in the background . . .

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154416

The sign seemed to have its first jump clock still in use if based on this 1972 pic taken at Flatbush and Prospect (with batwinged Fishbowl #8097 holding down the B41 to East 71st Street):

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154891

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Pictures like these shows us just how much "street-scapes" have changed over the past several decades; there is so much, that we once thought as being permanent, that we took for granted, and is no longer in existence.

Again, as I have long said, the stores, shops, signage, street lights, traffic signals, autos, and fashions truly date these old photos, as much as the buses do......so much has now either vanished or has been changed to the point that it can no loner be recognized.....

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