BusTalk

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HAD to post this link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmelit (the Haifa subway)

This "subway" is the only one operating in Israel; it first opened in the late 1950s, and is a unique combination of "subway" and "funicular" (be sure to check out the photo gallery; a few rare photos show the original rolling stock and station scenes from the 1950s and 1960s)

Note also how the interiors of the cars (like the platforms) are "stepped";(photos of station entrances/kiosks are also included)....

"NYO"

Note:

The "red trains" seen in these photos have since been replaced with newer rolling stock................

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Another quite interesting photo gallery (trains/stations)..........

https://michaelminn.net/countries/israel/passenger_rail/carmelit/index.html

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See also:

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-carmelit-haifa-israel

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Also.........

https://www.touristisrael.com/carmelit-underground-train-haifa/4899/

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News note...........

The "Carmelit" had suffered a serious fire back in 2017.

It was then decided to rebuild and revamp the line with new rolling stock and as well as a new main cable.

This unique "subway" re-opened back in 2022...........

"NYO"

[W.B. Fishbowl]

I'm wondering if anyone in the "Em-Tee-Yay" are taking notes on this system . . . or not . . .

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Here's an interesting page on the Glasgow Subway...........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Subway

Interestingly, the system is known as the "SUBWAY" (in Great Britain, that term describes an underground pedestrian passageway), indeed QUITE a "Yankee" terminology.

Too, note that the newest, third-generation Stadler rolling stock (which I've dubbed "The Quartermass", indeed recall mutated serpents from an alien planet ....Mars, perhaps? (Hey, Indiana Jones, better have that whip handy!)

All kidding aside, this is an interesting little "system" with a lot of history......

"NYO"

["S"]

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Glasgow Subway rolling stock, yesterday and today.

Again, note that the original cars were electrified in 1935, and were in use through the 1970s.

Originally, they had only four wheels (like the original METRO stock in Paris), but were later converted to eight wheel stock

Also, note how closely the interiors of the modern stock resembles the "deep level" tubes of London.

Even our "Eye-Are-Tee" and PATH cars seem HUGE in comparison!

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?90284

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?90285

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?111152

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?111153

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?126110

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?10266

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?126103

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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Important to recall, also, that the original "Bridge Railway" trains that crossed the Brooklyn Bridge prior to the electrification of the then-expanding El network were also hauled by cable across the span (cars were switched at Park Row and Sands Street by small Forney engines)............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?52469

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116196

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["TO BROOKLYN"]

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Interesting photo gallery of the Glasgow Subway's rolling stock*, past and present............

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Subway_rolling_stock

["GOVAN"]

*(interesting to note that the older trains were built by "METRO-CAMMEL"; this long-established British company once built hundreds of car bodies for several generations of London tube stock, as well as building thousands of bus bodies (for London and elsewhere).........

"NYO"

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Just came across this interesting page..........

https://ggwash.org/view/63139/meet-the-most-bizarre-subway-in-the-world-israels-funicular-carmelit

["down town"]

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Here in "Noo Yawk", of course, the only cable-operated transit venue is the Roosevelt Island Tramway......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt_Island_Tramway

This was also, interestingly enough, the last transit operation in the city to use tokens.

The original "gondolas" have since been replaced with newer versions.

In these photos, note, also, part of the surviving steelwork that, until 1942, carried 2nd Avenue El trains across the East River............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?54752 *

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?149786

*(An RTS can also just be glimpsed in this photo)

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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Here's an article on the "Clockwork Orange's" (Glasgow) new (driverless) hi-tech subway trains...........aka "SoQ's" ("Spawn of Quartermass")

Interesting article, however!

https://www.railway-technology.com/features/glasgow-subway-new-trains/

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When the Roosevelt Island Tramway opened in 1976...........

The "Em-Tee-Yay's bus fleet was comprised of Fishbowls ("Jetsons" and "Bullets") and "Dangerfields".

The "Little Red Bus That Could" was still in operation, as were the now-defunct Queens independents

SMEE equipment ruled the rails of the "Eye-Are-Tee", and there were still a number of prewar "Anines" still running, mostly on the BMT (until 1978).

The old "Bee-Em-Tee" Jamaica El was still in use, but would be closed the following year, 1977.

It would still be several years before the first RTS entered the MTA fleet; likewise, the R-62s would not begin to enter service for some years yet.

Many subway and elevated stations still had old-style change booths, wooden turnstiles, and incandescent lighting; classic signage then abounded.

The Mets were still playing at Shea, and the LIRR was still offering parlor car service........

"NYO"

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