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traildriver
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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I always wondered how they prevented fare-beaters from entering the fare-control property from the open grade crossing? I suppose the crossing guard doubled as "security"? |
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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traildriver:
I would assume that there were also barriers that could not been discerned in the photos at E. 105th Street.
Of course, at the SIRT's New Dorp station, passengers had to show their tickets on the train; or, without a ticket in their hand, having to purchase one from the conductor once on-board the train............
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Here's an interesting shot from 1968 of a train of "Q" cars operating a fantrip, passing through the E. 105th Street grade crossing.
The rows of old line poles along the tracks recall the long-ago days when BRT gate cars used overhead trolley wire on this line.................
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?128114
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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This rare 1915 photo shows the Canarsie line's Rockaway Parkway yard, full of trains of gate cars, operating off of overhead trolley wire..........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117053
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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(SEE PREVIOUS POST)
Interesting.............
Neither "Bah-ston" nor Philly ever operated El trains that utilized overhead trolley wire for parts of their routes; "Noo Yawk" (BRT) and "Shik-aga", on the other hand, operated rapid transit lines that utilized trolley wires.
The "See-Tee-Yay" was indeed still operating rapid transit lines using trolley wire into the 1970s; in fact, the fabled "SKOKIE SWIFT" (running on ex-North Shore ROW), utilized overhead wires until fairly recently, when "toid rail" was installed...........
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W.B. Fishbowl
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | (SEE PREVIOUS POST)
Interesting.............
Neither "Bah-ston" nor Philly ever operated El trains that utilized overhead trolley wire for parts of their routes; "Noo Yawk" (BRT) and "Shik-aga", on the other hand, operated rapid transit lines that utilized trolley wires.
The "See-Tee-Yay" was indeed still operating rapid transit lines using trolley wire into the 1970s; in fact, the fabled "SKOKIE SWIFT" (running on ex-North Shore ROW), utilized overhead wires until fairly recently, when "toid rail" was installed...........
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And in Manhattan, overhead trolley wires were prohibited by law as a result of the Blizzard of 1888. Which was why, ultimately, conduits on the ground were installed. So in that sense Manhattan was akin to "Bah-ston" and Philly whilst Brooklyn was more in line with "Shik-aga" in that way. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:36 am Post subject: |
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W.B:
Recall, too, that both "Bah-ston" and Philly both had (and still do have) trolley subway networks that served the downtown business districts and beyond; the closest to a "trolley subway" in Manhattan was the B&QT's underground loops at Delancey Street, fed by several car lines that crossed the "Willy B" (this long-forgotten underground trolley station closed in the late 1940s)...................
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:48 am Post subject: |
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It just keeps getting worse............
Yesterday, a man was kicked onto the subway tracks from behind at the 34th Street (8th Avenue) IND station (A/C/E)
These past few weeks have seen violent (and sometimes deadly) shootings and slashings almost daily (a conductor was severely slashed only several days ago)
Seems every straphanger these days is armed with either a knife, a box cutter, or a firearm.
I have not been on the subway (or even in the city) since they day I retired 20 years ago; I am grateful not to have to depend on any sort of mass transit today, nor do I have any need to venture into the city again.
I am more than content with my memories of a safer, and far more saner, city...............
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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"Noo Yawk"/"Shik-aga"..........
Interesting that while "Shik-aga's" wooden open platform "L" cars were virtually identical to those used on the "Noo Yawk" El lines, the prewar closed vestibule cars, for the most part, more resembled the interurban cars of that era (not all that surprising, in a way, as "Shik-aga" was then a major interburban hub)
The center-door 4000-series "Baldies" were about as close to "Eye-Are-Tee" equipment as you could get, "Shik-aga"-wise............
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Just saw this...........
On "EYEWITNESS NEWS MORNINGS AT 10" they featured a report about an "A" train conductor who was brutally slashed last week (thankfully, he is OK)
Footage showed both NTTs (aka "rolling iPads") and veteran 46s on the "A"; one closeup showed the conductor's window on a 46; I was very surprised to see the amount of corrosion surrounding the window frame.........
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Was just watching more ABC coverage on the upscale fight on subway crime.....
In several "stock footage" montages, I noticed that some R-62/62As still have roller signs, while others have been retrofitted with electronic signs.
How many of the 62s still have roller curtains?
Appreciate info....
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Regarding news "stock footage" showing R-62s............
Most footage shows cars with their original roller curtains; the few glimpses of cars that had been retrofitted with electronic signs are those displaying characters in green............
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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......and, when the 62s are retired, there will not be, for the first time since the introduction of the R-12s in 1948, cars equipped with traditional pantograph gates riding the rails of the old INTERBOROUGH.
Likewise, roller curtains will forever vanish from the fabled "Eye-Are-Tee" (and, Your's Truly still recalls with a heavy heart the abolishing of the use of marker lights, many years back)
These days, it just ain't the same...........
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