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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:59 pm    Post subject: Something Rare In New York Reply with quote

This is a Marmon-Herrington model 8MB operated by the New York City Department of Hoispitals


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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now THAT, my friend, IS rare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

MARMON, of course, manufactured a large number of trolley buses, that once ran in a number of cities, many years back.

The front end reminds me a bit of a postwar MACK........

GREAT photo!! Wink

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marmon also had the contract to rebuild most of the Greyhound Scenicruiser's in "Super Scenicruiser's" in 1961...
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
Marmon also had the contract to rebuild most of the Greyhound Scenicruiser's in "Super Scenicruiser's" in 1961...


traildriver:

According to "GREYHOUND SCENICRUISER" (McNALLY/RAYMAN) , it was a $10-million dollar contract awarded to MARMON, quite a sum, back in those days!

Structural issues were also corrected by MARMON; some of the buses had stress cracks along the sides, and these were corrected by installing riveted steel gussets in several varying locations, between the upper-deck side windows, above the baggage bins, and above the tandem axles........

"NYO"

*In my collection, I have an "PD 4501R OPERATING MANUAL" (53 pages)

To say this manual is most interesting is indeed an understatement; especially interesting is the use of "capsules" for cold weather starting......
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When did the Department of Hospitals morph into the Health and Hospitals Corporation, exactly?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
traildriver wrote:
Marmon also had the contract to rebuild most of the Greyhound Scenicruiser's in "Super Scenicruiser's" in 1961...


traildriver:

According to "GREYHOUND SCENICRUISER" (McNALLY/RAYMAN) , it was a $10-million dollar contract awarded to MARMON, quite a sum, back in those days!

Structural issues were also corrected by MARMON; some of the buses had stress cracks along the sides, and these were corrected by installing riveted steel gussets in several varying locations, between the upper-deck side windows, above the baggage bins, and above the tandem axles........

"NYO"

*In my collection, I have an "PD 4501R OPERATING MANUAL" (53 pages)

To say this manual is most interesting is indeed an understatement; especially interesting is the use of "capsules" for cold weather starting......


What would be even more interesting is the original Scenicruiser operator's manual, with the dual engines...
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Hart Bus



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B. Fishbowl wrote:
When did the Department of Hospitals morph into the Health and Hospitals Corporation, exactly?


IIRC It was sometime during the Lindsay years, when City Hall came up with with the idea of consolidating many of the agencies under several "consolidating" super agencies. I worked in 1971 for the Health Dept. which fell under the Health Services Agency umbrella along with the Medical Examiner's 0ffice and the office of Mental Health & Mental Hygene dept. Can't recall where the Hospital ended up.

To me, it was another sham so Lindsay's operatives could have jobs
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Hart Bus



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B. Fishbowl wrote:
When did the Department of Hospitals morph into the Health and Hospitals Corporation, exactly?


IIRC It was sometime during the Lindsay years, when City Hall came up with with the idea of consolidating many of the agencies under several "consolidating" super agencies. I worked in 1971 for the Health Dept. which fell under the Health Services Agency umbrella along with the Medical Examiner's 0ffice and the office of Mental Health & Mental Hygene dept. Can't recall where the Hospital ended up.

To me, it was another sham so Lindsay's operatives could have jobs
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC, the City ambulances (anyone remember those Metro stepvans?), were under the authority of the Hospitals originally...now they are under the authority of the NY Fire Department. I think that the paramedics are much happier with their current status.... Wink
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