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Cyberider · Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1243 Location: Tempe, AZ

First time I've read about that kind of "BRT."

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2025 3:01 pm Post subject:

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2025 6:24 pm Post subject:

Interesting trivia..........

The small steam ferries operated by the TCRT were known locally as "Yellow Jackets"........ Wink

"NYO"

["HOPKINS"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 9:04 am Post subject:

PSNJ's ferries........

New York-bound commuters riding to the 125th Street Ferry Terminal at Edgewater (via PSNJ streetcar/vus) were still required to pay an extra fare for the ferry, despite the fact that, until 1943, the ferries were also operated by PSNJ.

In 1943, the 125th Street crossing was sold to "ELECTRIC FERRIES", which operated the line until it was shut down in December, 1950........

"NYO"

["HUDSON RIVER"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 9:10 am Post subject:

This 1934 photo shows on of PS's "3500" series cars laying over adjacent to the busy 125th Street Ferry Terminal at Edgewater, signed for a school tripper run.

In the background, towards the rear of the car (and above) you can see the smokestack of one of the PS ferryboats (note the PS insignia)..............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116264

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["EDGEWATER SPECIAL"]

Cyberider · Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1243 Location: Tempe, AZ

Nice looking car!

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 1:28 pm Post subject:

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 1:36 pm Post subject:

The end of the line......

This sad photo dates to 1938, and was taken at almost the same location as the photo whose link I posted earlier (Edgewater)

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?118349

Here we see a "De Luxe" 3500-series car displaying a banner that announces the replacement of the "HUDSON RIVER" line streetcars with buses.

Look closely in the right background and you'll glimpse the pilothouse of a PS ferry laying over between runs.

The "HUDSON RIVER" line was the last BERGEN Division line to go over to buses...........

"NYO"

['PUBLIC SERVICE COORDINATED TRANSPORT"]

Cyberider · Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1243 Location: Tempe, AZ

From the photos I've seen, PSNJ certainly kept their equipment looking nice. I even liked their buses! When did the PSNJ ferries quit?

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 4:08 pm Post subject:

Cyberider · Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1243 Location: Tempe, AZ

Thanks for the info, NYO. Sounds like your Mom was aiding and abetting your interest in transit! Or was she a fan too?

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 5:16 pm Post subject:

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 8:42 pm Post subject:

Edgewater Terminal, circa-1910 (main portion of the ferry terminal is out of the photo to the right)........

Https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116266.

This busy rush-hour scene shows quite a flurry of rush-hour activity; at the time, the streetcar operations were known as the "PUBLIC SERVICE RAILWAY".

A "3500" Series car is in the foreground.

The last streetcars connected with the ferryboats in 1938.

Today, this area is totally unrecognizable (I live just minutes away, so I know this area well)

In the distance (looking north) note, also, the sidewheel excursion boat; this was one of the "IRON STEAMBOAT COMPANY's" majestic walking-beam excursion boats, which ran from Manhattan to Coney Island, until the early 1930s.

During the winter months, the boats were laid up at Edgewater, as seen here...............

"NYO"

["PUBLIC SERVICE RAILWAY"]

Cyberider · Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1243 Location: Tempe, AZ

Great photo, NYO! Plenty of streetcar action and the ferry. Wish I could see the ferry better. The "walking beams" were interesting to watch in action. I think either SP or Key had an older ferry with that feature too.

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 1:20 pm Post subject:

[quote="Cyberider"]Great photo, NYO! Plenty of streetcar action and the ferry. Wish I could see the ferry better. The "walking beams" were interesting to watch in action. I think either SP or Key had an older ferry with that feature too.]

Cyberider:

Indeed, that old photo had a LOT of streetcar activity going on; rush hours were ALWAYS hectic, at terminal! Very Happy

Regarding walking-beams, none of the KEY's boats had walking beams; their ferryboats, the most modern on the Bay at that time, all had propellers.

The ESPEE, on the other hand, DID operate several walking-beam boats.

These included the following:

"SACRAMENTO"

"OAKLAND"

"EUREKA"

The NWP operated the "CAZADERO".

The "EUREKA", today restored and preserved, was the last beam-engine ferry on the Bay, and lasted in ESPEE service to Oakland Pier until the mid-1950s...........

"NYO"

["OAKLAND PIER"]