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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:33 pm Post subject:

Back in the 1960's-Your's Truly indeed DOES recall seeing TRAILWAYS buses stopping briefly at this "depot"-but the sightings were "fleeting" at best; when the folks and I returned to NJ after a wonderful week up in Canada (1973)-our "PARKER TOURS/CASSER TOURS "Buffalo" let us off here (outbound-we boarded at a "storefront" depot in New York; just a few steps west along 32nd Street was the stop where we could board a PSNJ TDH-4509 on the long-defunct #16 and #17-------- ahhhhhh the good ol' days! Very Happy

"NYO"

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:23 pm Post subject:

And-as we already discussed elsewhere-GREYHOUND also had a "storefront" depot on Sip near the PSNJ station at Journal Square-at least through the 1970's (oddly-despite frequently being at "The Square" beginning in Your's Truly's long-departed childhood days-I cannot honestly recall seeing any GREYHOUND buses at this depot) also-GREYHOUND (AFAIK)-began calling at JSQ in the 1930's------------"NYO"

traildriver · Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2459 Location: South Florida

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:16 am Post subject:

I know that GREYHOUND still calls at Penn Station in Newark; just where was GREYHOUND's depot in Newark prior to the 1935 opening of Penn Station? A possible clue could be a 1935 photo on the book "THE UNION TROLLEY LINE" showing a PS streetcar near the DL&W's Broad Street station in Newark--------in-between runs on Plane Street------------there is building that possibly could be the ex-GREYHOUND depot/ticket office itself; there is also an adjacent parking lot full of autos (perhaps the buses loaded/unloaded here?)----------on the wall of an adjacent building is a "running dog" painted on the side-----could this be the site of the old GREYHOUND station? All we can do today is guess-----we also know that (at least starting in the 30's) GREYHOUND also called at Elizabeth; I would think that the station was near "The Arches"-near the raised PRR and CNJ tracks-in the downtown business district------------"NYO"

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:59 pm Post subject:

If indeed the GREYHOUND station was at Plane and Broad Streets in Newark prior to the opening of Penn Station in 1935-its relocation to the new Penn Station would translate into a facility where there were direct connections to through trains-as well as PS streetcar/AS/bus lines (and local independent bus lines)-------recall also-it would not be until 1937 that the "Tubes" would be extended into Penn Station-and also in 1937-that the City Subway would be extended beyond Broad Street into the new facility at Penn Station----------"NYO"

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:53 pm Post subject:

---------when Newark's New Penn Station opened in 1935-GREYHOUND was already setting the stage for the sleek new 719s and 743s; the only old photo (to date) Your's Truly has found (on the 'net) of a "Hound" at Newark was one showing the GX-2 at Penn Station (I recall that this photo was on the now-defunct "SCENICRUISER" site----------"NYO"

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:04 am Post subject:

Interesting also that Newark-as New Jersey's largest city-did not boast an "independent" GREYHOUND station-at least-back in the old days; or-why Newark did not boast a central "union" bus station for the intercity lines which then connected Newark to the rest of the nation-----------"NYO"

traildriver · Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2459 Location: South Florida

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:45 pm Post subject:

Yes-----the old PS facility indeed saw a lot of traffic that was not their own; recall-also-the old suburban operators that once started/ended their runs in Newark (then-too-the PS and local "indy" operators who utilized the bus lanes at Penn Station)-------------"NYO"

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:46 am Post subject:

Recall also that-while it was being built-the "Port-of-Authority" was being touted as a "union" bus station; this-I feel-was fully realized when GREYHOUND abandoned its 1930's Art Deco station opposite the old Penn Station in 1963-and shifted operations up to "The Port"----------------"NYO"

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:34 am Post subject:

Curious as to just how popular (and profitable) charter work was for GREYHOUND-back in the 1950's and 1960's-----I know that-long ago-charters were quite the "thing"; Your's Truly is curious to learn of what destinations would be popular for charters-especially the longer runs? I can see different organizations/groups also using GREYHOUND for "day trip" charters---------"NYO"

traildriver · Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2459 Location: South Florida

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:00 pm Post subject:

GREAT info; thanks for sharing here! Wink

Recall in Grady Hall's little paperback book on "piloting" for GREYHOUND back in the day-he recalled a three-week "charter" up to Canada back in 1966; chapter 11 of this book is entitled "OTHER CHARTERS"; healso recounted are how the high schools in the Stockton area used to charter GREYHOUND buses at the end of the school year-for senior trips---------(one of this "old school" GREYHOUND "pilot's" exciting charters was taking a senior club group up to Alaska-back in 1971)----------"NYO"

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:30 pm Post subject:

Long ago (elsewhere on this board) we discussed the ex-GREYHOUND Fishbowls that-after the World's Fair closed in 1965-were sold to New Jersey suburban operators; I DO clearly recall seeing (and-of course-riding) suburban Fishbowls which were furnished with "sightseeing panels" on the roof; which buses were ex-GREYHOUND----and which were purchased new by the suburban carriers? Your's Truly recalls such buses operating well through the 1980's; I know that Fishbowls with "sightseeing roofs" were also quite popular with operators that also ran sightseeing tours-----in fact-the last Canadian suburban Fishbowls built-(68H-5303As) featured "sightseeing" roofs; these buses dated to 1970------"NYO"