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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Here's a late model "ADIRONDACK" TRAILWAYS Prevost up in Albany..........

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/531213718553685183/

["ALBANY"]


Actually, 62111 is a 2011 model...the third and fourth digit in its number, now indicates its model year, so it's now 13 years old.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

Thanks for this info; always interesting learn "insider information"! Wink

Regarding the photo of the ADIRONDACK "Buffalo", I would guess that these buses lasted until at least the early 1980's?

In the book "SANTA FE PASSENGER TRAINS IN CALIFORNIA", there is a photo from 1975 of the Los Angeles Union Station; a "Buffalo" is waiting at the station, and is lettered "AMERICAN PACIFIC", but also sports the then-current AMTRAK logo (obviously, a train-connection bus)........

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just came across this interesting page; note the later-model Van Hool(also, note mention of GREYHOUND)...... Wink

https://www.trainsandtravel.com/2017/12/08/also-essential-amtrak-buses/

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good photos (rail and bus) here.........

https://wegadgets.net/2021/05/02/amtrak-thruway-bus-inside/

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also...........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amtrak_Thruway
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was recently on an American Queen Voyages cruise on the Mississippi. They have contracted with Easton Coach Company to provide the 'hop on, hop off buses that accompany the river boats.
Easton Coach purchased these custom designed Van Hool TX-45 luxury tour coaches for this service. They feature a European style rear door, for quick boarding, as well as glass panels in the roof, along with lower backed recliner's to improve sightseeing capability. Unlike the European version's with the rear doors, the restroom is located in the rear, North American style, rather than in the stepwell of the rear door.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To add to the above...in practice, they do not use the rear door, as the TX floor is even higher than the CX floor, and it is a very steep stairway, that is difficult for the typical elderly passengers they carry to negotiate. So they not only lose at least two seats, but also a luggage bay. At the end of each cruise, they need those luggage bays for transporting passengers to and from the boat to their hotels or airport.

I doubt they will order future buses with that feature, so these will be rarities...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

THANK YOU for providing this interesting info; I had never heard of this company before.

Here are a couple of links..........

https://eastoncoach.com/motorcoach/

https://eastoncoach.com

From what you have described, these buses sound MOST impressive (I keep on hoping that NJT will, at some point, purchase some VAN HOOLS, but, realistically, I know that is but a pipe dream, as NJT has been devoted to MCI since they ordered their first "Jersey Cruisers" way back in the 1980's)................

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

I am sure you will find these interesting.......... Wink

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Queen

https://www.aqvoyages.com/about-us/

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Besides, Van Hool, EASTON also roster highway coaches of several other manufacturers........

https://eastoncoach.com/our-fleet/luxury-charter-bus-fleet/

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
traildriver:

THANK YOU for providing this interesting info; I had never heard of this company before.

Here are a couple of links..........

https://eastoncoach.com/motorcoach/

https://eastoncoach.com

From what you have described, these buses sound MOST impressive (I keep on hoping that NJT will, at some point, purchase some VAN HOOLS, but, realistically, I know that is but a pipe dream, as NJT has been devoted to MCI since they ordered their first "Jersey Cruisers" way back in the 1980's)................

"NYO"

['EASTON COACH"]


Easton Coach does not show the AQV custom coaches on its 'home' website, probably because those are not available for charter, since they are under contract to AQV, and have the riverboat 'wrap' jobs covering them. The true owner/operator is on the 'legals'.....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fusarivercruises.com%2Fblog%2Fpartner-highlight-american-queen-voyages%2F&psig=AOvVaw3BwyF-nKWB91vS-08oQWqJ&ust=1700534796711000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCMiT8vnH0YIDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

scroll down for a photo of one...

BTW, NYO, why would you wish for NJT to buy a Van Hool over an MCI?
Just for busfan variety?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

Like yourself, I've long been an MCI devotee, but, simply wish to see a little "variety" in the NJT fleet.

For some odd reason, the newest MCIs (at least those I've seen in my area) lack NJT logos on their dashes; the front of the bus looks quite bland and "unfinished".

My favorite NJT MCI's were the original "Jersey Cruisers" of the 1980's, those that had the upswept flair over their destination signs (this always reminded me of the distinctive "pompadour" that a number of the ACF-BRILL C-44 suburbans sported, way mack in my much, much younger days.

Personally, I believe that the MCI has indeed more than proven itself in daily service, over the past several decades.

Look at how many suburban companies have rostered them, over the years, especially in the New York/New Jersey area!

Those I recall (besides NJT)

DE CAMP

LAKELAND

RED & TAN

SUBURBAN

SHORTLINE

Of course, I remember those used by the now-defunct DOMENICO in tour service.

Today, the MCI dominates countless fleets across the nation, just as GM did, for so many years, several decades ago.........

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(keyboard issues here be patient with Your's Truly)-----thought for the day:

It's a good thing GREYHOUND had MCI; when GM departed the bus-manufacturing business, there were not all that many choices as to choosing another builder; perhaps they could looked to a certain Canadian builder for future coach orders--------"NYO"


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GREYHOUND and TRAILWAYS both once operated buses that carried both passengers and cargo in later years----I think it was GREYHOUND that first offered this type of passenger/cargo bus but cannot be sure-when did such operations end?----------"NYO"
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
GREYHOUND and TRAILWAYS both once operated buses that carried both passengers and cargo in later years----I think it was GREYHOUND that first offered this type of passenger/cargo bus but cannot be sure-when did such operations end?----------"NYO"


Before Greyhound converted older Scenicruiser's into 30 or 18 passenger "Combo's", and Continental Trailways converted older Eagle's into similar, companies such as Coachway's, ran as-built "Bruck's" on remote Northwestern Canada routes. Western Flyer built those, but Crown and other's did, as well.

Not sure of when it all ended. When the Scenicruiser's reached their end of life, Greyhound converted some older MC-7's into Combo's, by utilizing the higher load capability of the eight wheel rear end assembly salvaged from retired Scenicruiser's.

I would guess sometime in the mid '80's? The decline of bus package express volume, as a result of the rapid growth of UPS, and new entry, Fedex, probably reduced the need for combo's.

But even until fairly recent times, Greyhound Lines of Canada ran cargo trailer's behind scheduled coaches on long thin routes right up until they ended all service a few years ago...
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