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traildriver · Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2460 Location: South Florida

That would be a safe bet…they even still carried their former GL fleet numbers.

I am wondering where else besides CA, did GL use GM Transits or Suburbans for commuter operations?
The ones I recall in the sixties were mostly older mainline Parlor coaches.
One of the last places GL ran commuter services was Washington, DC, well into the seventies…

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:13 am Post subject:

traildriver:

I did not know that GREYHOUND had once operated suburban service out of DC.

Years ago, on the defunct "STRAYHOUND" site, I recall seeing a photo where a SILVERSIDES, along a few Old Looks, ware at a location near SF, in suburban service (photo dated to the 1960's); the SILVERSIDES obviously served "The Hound" for quite a few years! Wink

Interesting to note that GOLDEN GATE TRANSIT, when replacing GREYHOUND suburban service over the Golden Gate Bridge, purchased 112 T8H-5305A's.

Also, in 1965, GREYHOUND purchased 60 5303's for suburban service out of San Francisco.........

"NYO"

traildriver · Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2460 Location: South Florida

Greyhound ran local service from Washington north and south along US-1, and US-50 in all directions. These loaded on New York Avenue, across from the terminal. They went as far as Baltimore, Fredericksburg, Annapolis, and Winchester, with several shorter 'tripper's'. Some mainline schedules from the terminal also supplemented these on their longer trips...

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:42 am Post subject:

traildriver · Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2460 Location: South Florida

Safeway and Virginia Trailways also ran commuter services to MD and VA out of Washington, DC. These also lasted into the seventies.

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:13 pm Post subject:

traildriver · Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2460 Location: South Florida

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:55 pm Post subject:

traildriver:

You're the fellow for this one...... Wink

We have, in the past, discussed "interstate" and "intrastate" passengers.

With the exception of GREYHOUND operations in and around the cities, Your's Truly is wondering if GREYHOUND, once allowed "local" passengers to board buses, if they lived in rural areas, where there was little or no other alternate transport.

I know "flag stops" along the old electric interurban lines were used for years, in the "country" areas; did GREYHOUND ever use "flag stops", back in the day?

Appreciate info, as always....

"NYO"

traildriver · Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2460 Location: South Florida

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:23 pm Post subject:

traildriver:

GREAT RESPONSE....this is EXACTLY what I had wanted to know! Very Happy

An EASTERN GREYHOUND tt I have (1965) carries a footnote, that explains the stops for intrastate passengers, in Connecticut.

Another notation:

"RESTRICTIONS FOR TABLE 62: INTERSTATE PASSENGERS WILL BE CARRIED BETWEEN ALL POINTS."
______________________________________________________________

The following is via a 1949 "DIXIE GREYHOUND" tt:

"f"-flag stop

"Y"-INTRASTATE ONLY. NO INTERSTATE PASSENGERS TO BE HANDLED.

"NYO"

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:11 am Post subject:

This courtesy of a "TECHE GREYHOUND" tt (1952)......

"EXPRESS SCHEDULES WILL DISCHARGE PASSENGERS WITHIN BATON ROUGE AND NEW ORLEANS"

"ALL EXPRESS SCHEDULES WILL WILL DISCHARGE PASSENGERS AT ALL STATIONS BETWEEN BATON ROUGE AND NEW ORLEANS THAT ORIGINATE BEYOND BATON ROUGE"

A 1950 SOUTHERN KANSAS GREYHOUND LINES tt carries an "f" designation to denote a flag stop.........

"NYO"

traildriver · Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2460 Location: South Florida

I was never a fan of the designation " f " in a schedule column, or the even more strange " ss " denoting a "station stop", as these put the burden on the traveler to compute when the bus would pass by or stop at these points, by extrapolating the likely time by looking at similar schedules that did have a positive stopping time between two adjacent points...

It would have been better to put a time, with a notation: "stops only to discharge, or on signal to board"...

traildriver · Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2460 Location: South Florida

One of the more unusual footnotes, was on schedules that used the Pennsylvania Turnpike...it stated that "operators will accept passenger's that wished to be discharged at rest area's", on otherwise express schedules. Some of the rest areas were designated rest stops, but not all of them. Unclear if they would make a discharge stop at the non designated ones, or not...

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:12 pm Post subject:

I now recall the old NHBL's #5 (JSQ-PABT) of long-ago childhood days.

Inbound to the "Port-of-Authority" (that's how folks in Your's Truly's area referred to it, back then....so did Connie Francis!) the #5 would only pick up passengers bound for New York; NO local riders were allowed to board (they had to wait for the next #1, which ran between Journal Square and Nungessers)

Outbound, the buses only DISCHARGED passengers; again, "local" riders could not board.......

"NYO"

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:17 pm Post subject:

Also, I well recall PS lines (heading into NYC, such as the #165 and the #166) allowed "local" passsengers to board; ditto, ORANGE & BLACK.

An exception was ORANGE & BLACK's rush-hours only "RIVER ROAD EXPRESS" (today, NJT's re-constructed #159R); inbound buses carried NO local passengers (after the final stop in Cliffside Park on Gorge Road, the buses ran "closed door" into the PABT.

Outbound, it was the reverse; no "local" riders could board anywhere along the route......

"NYO"