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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now this a TRUE "heritage" consist!! Shocked

(note that battle-scarred GM&O power hauling a colorful, classic string of "newly-inherited" equipment!)

This was taken at Chicago, back in 1972........

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk-trn301dca.jpg

(courtesy: fallenflags.org)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CNJ's "heritage trains"..........

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cnj/cnj3683kga.jpg

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cnj/cnj3678arc.jpg

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cnj/cnj4103.jpg

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ConRail/CNJ/NJDOT "Jersey Builders" under ex-PRR catenary at Newark, 1977........

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/njdot/njdot-a.jpg

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/njdot/njdot-b.jpg

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
NP "heritage"........

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk-domint-csa.jpg

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That was when equipment had "character"!
Each road had their own distinctive detailing...sometimes even different cars on different trains had their own decor...beautiful mural's, drapery, etched glass panels, and other artwork.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
NP "heritage"........

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk-domint-csa.jpg

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That was when equipment had "character"!
Each road had their own distinctive detailing...sometimes even different cars on different trains had their own decor...beautiful mural's, drapery, etched glass panels, and other artwork.


traildriver:

Exactly!

As an example, recall, also, the fine, elegant, handsome, and colorful Native American-influenced decor found aboard many Santa Fe cars, especially the "CHIEF".

Back in those days, especially in the forward-thinking early postwar era, the railroads wanted their passengers to feel that they were traveling in true style.....and this was MORE than obvious, aboard so many trains....Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Postwar Santa Fe varnish.......STYLE personified!! Very Happy

http://www.american-rails.com/warbonnet.html

http://www.american-rails.com/super.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Chief
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When it comes to true "style", some pictures indeed speak louder than words..... Wink

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf0034Cjpa.jpg

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Ditto"........... Wink

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-chief-awp.jpg

*The Santa Fe clearly had respect for the Native American culture of the peoples that once dominated the area in which their trains operated, for many hundreds of years; this was clearly evident in their passenger equipment.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
traildriver wrote:
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
NP "heritage"........

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk-domint-csa.jpg

(courtesy: fallenflags.org)


That was when equipment had "character"!
Each road had their own distinctive detailing...sometimes even different cars on different trains had their own decor...beautiful mural's, drapery, etched glass panels, and other artwork.


traildriver:

Exactly!

As an example, recall, also, the fine, elegant, handsome, and colorful Native American-influenced decor found aboard many Santa Fe cars, especially the "CHIEF".

Back in those days, especially in the forward-thinking early postwar era, the railroads wanted their passengers to feel that they were traveling in true style.....and this was MORE than obvious, aboard so many trains....Very Happy

"NYO"


I recall it very well...in fact, in that wiki article, they showed a picture of the original Super Chief "Navajo", sleeper-lounge-observation car, parked at the Colorado RR Museum in Golden. I used to be a member of the Intermountain Chapter, NRHS, that owned that car, and put it on permanent loan to that museum, after the car was retired from fantrip service.
Inside the car, are some excellent example's of Navajo 'sand paintings'....
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

The Santa Fe was indeed "America's Railroad", in many ways, even though it did not run east of Chicago.

Think of how LIONEL's postwar passenger sets were indeed dominated by the Santa Fe; in the 1950's and 1960's, the SF was duplicated in the many thousands of tin lithographed toys of that era, the timeless "Warbonnet" scheme both flashy and bright (I have many in my collection today, some of which I've had since my long-gone childhood days!)

Mom and I were also VERY partial to NH's flashy and stylish "McGuiness" paint; we'd often gazed at those sleek FL-9's at GCT (and, also, took day trips up to New Haven)

Mom always said of the NH engines, even years later: "They look like they're all dressed up for a parade!" Wink

That huge "N" over an "H" on the noses of the FL-9's and oft-forgotten EP-5 "Jets" still remain clear in my memory today.........ho-hum "generic" appearances were still in the future, back then.....

"NYO"


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"All Dressed Up For A Parade" Very Happy

NH's classic "McGuiness" paint was indeed one of the most eye-catching paint schemes on the rails, back in the day........

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nh/nh2002goa.jpg

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nh/nh2024goa.jpg

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting "back on track", if you will, here.......

A few years back, I purchased an excellent book off of eBay, entitled "AFRICAN-AMERICAN RAILROAD WORKERS OF ROANOAKE"(Scarborogh)

Though this book does not focus on the Pullman porters per se, it does make mention of them throughout the book.

Also, the book itself is a real glimpse back to the days when black engineers/fireman/conductors were virtually unknown (the book focuses on N&W employees)

Here are a few excerpts that indeed ring true:

".........it was both difficult and frustrating to see many black men that clearly had exceptional talents, but could not move ahead in the railroad, as they had you in a class where you were employed and you had to stay put. ......"

".........my bachelor uncle, a Pullman porter, was not a bitter man by any means, but he was affected by it (prejudice); he recalled, one time, having to train a young white man who was going to be his supervisor......."

".........a black man who became a brakeman was indeed a fortunate fellow, indeed, because, at that time, that was about as high up as you can get, rank-wise, with the Company....."

This book also had personal reminisces from a number of African-American railroad employees.

To say the very least, their stories are powerful, poignant, and, indeed, most enlightening: I recommend this excellent work to anyone.......

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In speaking of the fight for racial equality "on the rails", mention must be made of the infamous Philadelphia Transit Strike of 1944.......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_transit_strike_of_1944
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also:

https://hiddencityphila.org/2014/08/an-anniversary-to-forget-august-1-1944/
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is worthy of inclusion, here........

In 1964, Ulysess Bryant and Herman Ogletree became the first African-American drivers hired by GREYHOUND.

On their runs, some white passengers refused to board their bus because a black man was behind the wheel; one can only imagine how much guts it took for these two pioneering gentlemen, when they first got behind the wheel........

"NYO"
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