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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sobering news:

Ironically (given my last inquiry) I just watched an excellent report by N.J. Burkett on Eyewitness News (ABC7) about the MTA's new plan to protect bus drivers.

For unexplained reasons, assaults on MTA drivers is steadily rising; just last week, an angry,vehement mob beat up a driver on a Brooklyn route.

It's truly getting insane.....and ugly.

The MTA is retrofitting all buses in the fleet with full-length Pexiglass partitions around the driver, forming a "cockpit"of sorts".

All new MTA buses will be quipped with these "cockpits" also; cost will be about $10,000-$15,000 per bus.

At 6 o' clock, N.J. will be talking to an MTA driver who has been a victim of assault/harrasment.

Sad commentary on the city....and the world we live in, certainly.....

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update:

According to N.J. Burkett's (Eyewitness News at 6) excellent follow-up report on MTA bus driver assaults, assaults on drivers are up 36% this year.

And, way back in 1969, they thought that the new "exact fare" policy was going to increase safety and security for the city's bus drivers........how naive we were, back in 1969.......... Sad

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"ALL'S FARE" (Lexington & 34th, 1969)............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154733

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

['16 TO 1ST AVE"]
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Update:

According to N.J. Burkett's (Eyewitness News at 6) excellent follow-up report on MTA bus driver assaults, assaults on drivers are up 36% this year.

And, way back in 1969, they thought that the new "exact fare" policy was going to increase safety and security for the city's bus drivers........how naive we were, back in 1969.......... Sad

"NYO"

It was for those same reasons, in 1969, why there were horizontal metal guards (showing five at bottom) installed near the driver's side window:

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154028

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

To be honest, I was not at all familiar with these metal guards; thanks for posting this photo.

Sadly, as you and I both know, such metal guards would be totally ineffective against the violent attacks that every MTA driver fears nowadays.

Recall, too, the heavy brass/bronze grills that protected windows on the old IRT/BMT/IND change booths, so long ago.

Of course, the city was a far, far safer (and saner) place than it is today.

It would seem, then, when an MTA driver is on the job, he should, at the very least, be receiving combat pay; these drivers, in every sense of the word, DO indeed go into "active combat", every time they get behind the wheel.

Too, subway conductors are particularly vunerable to senseless attacks while on the job.

Remember, also, the "ghetto grills" (as they were then called) protecting the cab windows of locomotives hauling trains in and out of GCT, back in the 70's and into the 80's?

It will be interesting, to say the least, to see the MTA retrofitting all the buses in the current fleet with these new Pexiglass "cockpits",in coming months........

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Park Row & Beekman, 1969..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155444

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Broadway & Chambers, 1969.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154201

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bryant & Westchester, 1972.........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153831

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["BX35"]
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Bryant & Westchester, 1972.........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153831

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["BX35"]

And to think that bus (#3172), at the start of its service life in November 1960 (as lettered 'SURFACE TRANSIT INC.' on its sides), alternated between going down Broadway towards Times Square, and across 42nd Street, via the M-104 and M-106, respectively. Talk about comedowns . . .

In those days, old bus reassigments weren't talked about the way they were back in 2019 as what led to the final retirement of the last RTS's.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Good points.

Back in those days, no rowdy fuss was made about older buses being re-assigned to less "prestigious" routes, as the newer models came into use.

With today's highly-volatile political correctness totally out of control, even such mundane things as older buses on certain routes can often set the stage for some unpleasant "encounters" with the MTA and City Hall.

IMHO, the most "tony" of lines in Manhattan were those that operated on Fifth Avenue, Broadway, and Madison Avenue.

Sad, but, when one thinks about it, "Fifth Aven-oo" has, indeed, lost quite a bit of its glitz and glamour, over the past several decades.......

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contrasting "'stoa" views from 1970...........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153797

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153835

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contrasting "stoa" views from 1970 (II)...........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153792

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153790

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"stoa", 1970...........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153791

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155169

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Contrasting "stoa" views from 1970 (II)...........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153792

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153790

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["2635"]

And all those buses retired just like that once the "Dangerfields" arrived . . .
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an interesting "Victor and the Vanquished" ('stoa") shot from 1970..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153798

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