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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this 1973 photo (taken nine years after the illustrious DAY LINE stopped service to the 125th St. pier) MaBSTOA #6595 here displays a "125th St. Pier" sign, but, using the more modern upper and lower case-letter format......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155128

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["BX29 125 St Pier"]
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
In this 1973 photo (taken nine years after the illustrious DAY LINE stopped service to the 125th St. pier) MaBSTOA #6595 here displays a "125th St. Pier" sign, but, using the more modern upper and lower case-letter format......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155128

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["BX29 125 St Pier"]

No doubt force of habit.

But it was from those modern U&LC signs of '73 (type font Standard Medium, a.k.a. Akzidenz-Grotesk) that the ex-FACCo and NYCO lines began displaying 'M' prefices for the very first time (and in the case of FACCo's two Queens lines, QM15 and QM16) - and 'Tee-Yay' (in all four boroughs they served - M, B, Q, R) and ex-Surface lines (such as Bx29 or M104) for the first time in decades.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Agreed; "force of habit" seems spot-on.

This recalls the NJDOT "Dangerfields" that ran on the old CENTRAL AVENUE lines in Jersey City; the new buses had a rollsign reading "CNJ STA".

This ferry*, operated by the CNJ (Jersey Central RR) was abandoned in April, 1967, when the CNJ re-routed all commuter trains away from Jersey City, terminating them instead, at Newark.

So, here we had new 1976-era buses displaying a destination that already had been redundant for nearly a decade (Liberty Park, itself, was not yet being developed at the time)......

"NYO"

*As a kid, Mom and I rode CENTRAL AVENUE Old Looks and MACKS on this line, when going down to the terminal, prior to 1967.....a lot of great memories......


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to squint a bit, but you can just make out "CNJ STA" on the roller curtain of this then-new CENTRAL AVENUE "Dangerfield"*.

The abandoned CNJ rail/ferry terminal area would have been out of sight on the right.

On the left, is where the LV float yard was located, used until 1976.

Back in the 60's, the float yard was still busy, as was the echoing CNJ passenger terminal, especially at rush hours.

Nothing in this photo survives today (including the iconic, soaring Twin Towers); the GOODYEAR blimp also brings back great memories.....

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155957

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*Note that the bus is green; CENTRAL AVENUE buses were always brown.....


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's one of CENTRAL AVENUE's (second hand) first-generation Fishbowls; for most of the 1960's, CENTRAL AVENUE only rostered Old Looks and MACKS.

Note that the bus is carrying only the smaller-sized ad frames.

All of the few remaining Old Looks and some of the Fishbowls were retired when the new NJDOT "Dangerfields" began arriving about 1976.

The MACKS were all gone by the late 1960's.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154477

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this snowy 1974 scene, we see MaBSTOA #6777 signed:

"106 TO WEST 42 PIER" (all caps)

At least this sign's "PIER" reading was appropriate, as both the CIRCLE LINE and the now-defunct DAY LINE docked at W. 42nd St.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155646

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["106 TO WEST 42 PIER"]
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Borrowed WAMATA Fishbowl "at the piers", back in 1981........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155772

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at that pic, it looks like #8556 is going to rear-end the WMATA bus any second . . .
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B. Fishbowl wrote:
Looking at that pic, it looks like #8556 is going to rear-end the WMATA bus any second . . .


W.B.:

Indeed, the MaBSTOA version of "Close Encounters"........ Wink

Quick question:

When were the WAMATA buses sent home again, after doing their stint in "Noo Yawk"?

I am sure that new RTS replaced them........

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another quick question:

What was the total of WAMATA buses that were sent to "Noo Yawk"?

How were these divided between the MTA and MaBSTOA depots?

Appreciate info.....

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too, I've wondered how many more years of service did the WAMATA Fishbowls and "Dangerfields" put in, once back in DC, before being retired?

As I have said elsewhere, I knew one WAMATA "Dangerfield" VERY well (riding it once daily in the AM for quite awhile, back around 1995) that was running on the old NHBL #1 (Nungessers-JSQ); it had deep and comfy bucket seats, that, somehow, escaped serious vandalism; it was also equipped with an ancient NHBL Johnson farebox!

This was obviously oner of the "borrowed" buses that came "up north" in the early 80's, when the MTA's "Borough Bombers" were failing and ailing.......

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New York Omnibus 2629...

Here is a complee listing of the WMATA buses that were leased to New York City.

From left to right...

Agency; Fleet Number (NYC); Make; Model; Serial #; Year; WMATA; WMATA Fleet Number; Depot

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THANK YOU, my friend, for taking the time to post this information......MUCH appreciated!!! Very Happy

I still remember all the media coverage on the "DC RELIEF CONVOY" heading north; I remember it even made the front page of the papers!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a few random shots of borrowed WAMATA buses in Da Big Apple...... Wink

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154181

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155770

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155781

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155776

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edgewater . . . Ah yes. Where some of the leased WMATA buses fell into the river, and the 'Tee-Yay' had to surrender some of their 1969-70 'Dangerfields' to DC when the lease time was up.
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