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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629




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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Regarding "SURFACE"........

When were the last of the MACKS (the ones that were emblazoned with the "RIDE THE SURFACE WAY" legend over the windows) retired?

I know I was quite young, but I do remember them; I'm guessing sometime around 1962/63?

I also (again, as a quite young lad) can remember my mother and I catching a crosstown bus outside of the PABT, and riding to somewhere around 2nd Avenue, whee my godmother worked in an office.

This would have been sometime about 1961 or 1962.......

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
W.B.:

Regarding "SURFACE"........

When were the last of the MACKS (the ones that were emblazoned with the "RIDE THE SURFACE WAY" legend over the windows) retired?

I know I was quite young, but I do remember them; I'm guessing sometime around 1962/63?

I also (again, as a quite young lad) can remember my mother and I catching a crosstown bus outside of the PABT, and riding to somewhere around 2nd Avenue, whee my godmother worked in an office.

This would have been sometime about 1961 or 1962.......

"NYO"

Probably 1963 or so, if you're talking about the oldest. Presumably the first of the C-49DT's ordered in 1954 would have had that motto on the top above the standee windows, and if so that fleet would have been retired along with the 1956 and 1958 Macks in 1967.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Thanks...appreciate this info! Wink

From what I can remember as a youngster starting grade school, I thought it was about that time (I'm talking about the oldest buses)

Well into the 1960's, I can remember seeing only Old Looks and MACKS at the St. George ferry terminal; I have a circa-1963 postcard showing the terminal (as well as the long vehicular lines for the 69th St. boats), and every bus in view (at least a dozen or more) are all either Old Looks or MACKS........

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding "Batwings/Bus-o-Rama"........

I'm not sure if this was covered elsewhere in this topic, but when exactly did the "batwing" era end? (also, when was the use of rear door sign boxes discontinued?)

Was the demise of "Bus-O-Rama" brought about by money/maintenence issues, or other factors?

Thanks.....

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my favorite "batwing" photos; I love photos like this that truly date a "Noo Yawk" moment....... Wink

(photo was taken at 3rd & 34th, back in 1981; note that the former rear sign box area is now covered by part of the CBS 2 News advertisement)

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2447

(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org)
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4th Avenue & 8th St., 1973.........

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1289

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2020 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While on the subject of "BUS-O-RAMA" bat wings, I'd love to see someone photoshop a picture of one of the "buses with the sign that sticks out in the front" and ad bat wing ads in sync with that era..... Wink

Sure would be a bus that REALLY stood out from the rest...... Shocked

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
4th Avenue & 8th St., 1973.........

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1289

(courtesy: bus.subway.org)

With 'VIA 7 AVE' blacked out on the front roll sign, hence the huge blank space.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Good to see you back; it's been quite awhile.....hope you are doing well these days! Wink

Regarding "blacked out" lettering/numbers on roller curtains: was this done with paint, or black tape?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
While on the subject of "BUS-O-RAMA" bat wings, I'd love to see someone photoshop a picture of one of the "buses with the sign that sticks out in the front" and ad bat wing ads in sync with that era..... Wink

Sure would be a bus that REALLY stood out from the rest...... Shocked

"NYO"


Back during the 70's, I had seen a published photo of an Old Look with batwings attached. It was assigned to a senior community in Florida, the ads just had the name of the community. The ad racks were placed above the standee windows, not covering them. Sorry I never cut out and saved the photo.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

B53RICH:

Man, too bad you didn't save that photo....dang, that would have been something to see, for sure!!! Shocked

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
W.B.:

Good to see you back; it's been quite awhile.....hope you are doing well these days! Wink

Regarding "blacked out" lettering/numbers on roller curtains: was this done with paint, or black tape?

"NYO"

I've been doing well, except over here, apart from this spurt, there's been little or no activity that would activate my antennae.

I'd say paint was used to cover up blacked out lettering.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

I was leaning towards the paint angle, myself (I LOVE that distinctive smell of an older roller curtain (bus or subway) that still clings to the curtain, even after the span of many decades.....ahhh, sweet ambrosia.....a tantilizing whiff of transit history! Wink

"NYO"

PS: Glad to hear that you are doing well, with all this craziness going around as of late......


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting destination sign for an NYCTA route 3, 49th & 50th Street Crosstown.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15:

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked

Never saw the likes of this one before!!! Shocked Shocked

NOT surprised, however, that you pulled yet another "gem" out of your magic hat! Wink

Boy, I'd sure love to have that sign in my collection today! Very Happy

Thanks for sharing here! Wink

"NYO"

PS:

How many (approx.) buses had this reading on their rollsigns?
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