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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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MaBSTOA 15....................
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
And I thought it the HEIGHT of "offbeat" when I first saw a picture on the 'net of an ex-"PICKWICK NITE COACH" being used as a RAIL BUS in Mexico!!
AWESOME pics.....thanks for posting!!!! 
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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The (PSNJ) "Chevvies".......
Back in the later 30's, and into the 40's, PSNJ operated another real "oddball", the little Chevrolet buses used on the more lightly-traveled lines.
Drivers HATED....repeat, HATED these buses!!! 
From an old PS booklet I have in my collection:
".....these buses had two seats on one side of the aisle, and one on the other. You shifted gears behind you. You collected fares behind your back. You used a long lever to operate the doors, again, having to reach behind you......"
"......Those buses rattled so much, that drivers would finish their workday with a perpetual headache.............."
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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In discussing "oddball" buses both in "Noo Yawk" and elsewhere, we would indeed be amiss if we failed to include those HIGHLY-unorthodox VERSARE buses that once operated up in "da Bronx"!* 
Scroll down to page to article from November, 1930 issue of the "ELECTRIC RAILWAY JOURNAL"........
www.coachbuilt.com/bui/v/versare/versare2.htm
*(recall, also, the six-axle buses operated by SURFACE, which had started life as double-deckers)
"NYO"
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W.B. Fishbowl
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| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | MaBSTOA 15....................
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I thought it the HEIGHT of "offbeat" when I first saw a picture on the 'net of an ex-"PICKWICK NITE COACH" being used as a RAIL BUS in Mexico!!
AWESOME pics.....thanks for posting!!!!
"NYO" |
One wonders what the reaction would've been if this were on the streets of London, now . . . forget, say, FACCo ordering any of these babies . . . |
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traildriver
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| MaBSTOA 15 wrote: | And just as odd are the Fords acquired by Public Service in the 1940s.
240 model 49B in 1944
40 model 69B in 1946
246 model 79B in 1947 |
"Beggar's can't be chooser's"....
That's the way it was during WWII. You would take anything the Office of War Production would allow you to get. It took a few postwar years for production to catch up to demand.... |
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traildriver
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| MaBSTOA 15 wrote: | Talk about oddballs... you can't get any more odd than a Pickwick Duplex used by North Shore Bus Company in transit service!
It was acquired in 1931 and numbered 626. Renumbered to 700 in 1932 and finally renumbered 500 in 1935.
Adding to its oddness is the fact that it made it into City ownership in 1947. If the BoT ever used it as a transit bus will never know! |
Nice find!
I wonder who got the idea for the "Duplex" seat layout first? The Duplex, or the designer's of these?
https://rmli.org/our-collection/lirr-double-decker-passenger-car-200/ |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | MaBSTOA 15....................
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I thought it the HEIGHT of "offbeat" when I first saw a picture on the 'net of an ex-"PICKWICK NITE COACH" being used as a RAIL BUS in Mexico!!
AWESOME pics.....thanks for posting!!!!
"NYO" |
One wonders what the reaction would've been if this were on the streets of London, now . . . forget, say, FACCo ordering any of these babies . . . |
W.B.:
There were, way back in the day, some quite unusual buses/coaches that operated in London; after these were retired from revenue service, a number became "caravans"(campers) or "showman's vehicles" (vehicles used by circuses, sports venues, etc.)
As a die-hard, dedicated student on British buses/coaches from years ago, and a longtime LT historian, I can tell you that there was shortage of unusual (and interesting!) buses/coaches in service, many eons ago (no wonder Great Britain had/has so many bus enthusiast rallies and societies! 9if only we here at home had likewise!)
"NYO"
["45A UXBRIDGE"]
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | MaBSTOA 15....................
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I thought it the HEIGHT of "offbeat" when I first saw a picture on the 'net of an ex-"PICKWICK NITE COACH" being used as a RAIL BUS in Mexico!!
AWESOME pics.....thanks for posting!!!!
"NYO" |
One wonders what the reaction would've been if this were on the streets of London, now . . . forget, say, FACCo ordering any of these babies . . . |
W.B.:
Here are the"INTER-STATION CUBS: C106-C113); NOTHING like this here at home, for sure!
Imagine a fleet of these little bilevels shuttling passengers and luggage between Penn Station and Grand Central?
"NYO"
www.countrybus.org/C/Cub.html#inter |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | MaBSTOA 15....................
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I thought it the HEIGHT of "offbeat" when I first saw a picture on the 'net of an ex-"PICKWICK NITE COACH" being used as a RAIL BUS in Mexico!!
AWESOME pics.....thanks for posting!!!!
"NYO" |
One wonders what the reaction would've been if this were on the streets of London, now . . . forget, say, FACCo ordering any of these babies . . . |
W.B.:
Before heading back to "Noo Yawk", check out this outstanding collection of photos from the 1960's, taken at London's always-bustling Victoria Coach Station (QUITE a variety, for sure!)
Of course, no "Shermans"or "Pattons" are to be seen in this wonderful old photos, but some QUITE interesting and now-classic vehicles!
Today's British buses and coaches are, overwhelmingly, as dull, insipid, and as ugly as they are here at home. 
Anyway, enjoy some truly CLASSIC (and unusual) Brit buses and coaches from another era!
https://www.classicbuses.co.uk/++Victoria-coach-station.html
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Another side of the "Oddballs" built by TWIN.......
It is also interesting to note that, out of all the major bus builders, only TWIN built articulated buses.
In 1938, TWIN built the articulated "QUEEN MARY", which was delivered to Baltimore's BTC, and operated until after WW2.
Unlike most articulateds, this bus did not bend horizontally,making it very difficult to turn corners.
Then, after the War, TWIN built another articulated transit bus, the "SUPER TWIN".
Again, this bus could not bend horizontally.
TWIN built 15 of these buses; fourteen went to Omaha, and one went to the CTA as a trolleybus.
In 1940, TWIN built one articulated trolleybus, which went to Cleveland.
This unit was unusual in that it also had a steerable rear axle.
Recall, also, the "SUPER TWIN" (#400) that operated as a demo in Brooklyn, back in 1947...........
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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Imagine these sleek bi-levels being used to transport airline passengers from Midtown out to La Guardia and Idlewilde, back in the day.........
www.countrybus.org/rf/RF6.htm
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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Thoughts...........
Take notice, that, after the War, the "Bee-oh-Tee", outside of the relatively few TWIN "Oddballs" that were purchased, chose to stick with "Gee-Em" and MACK.
Just as well that the "Bee-oh-Tee" did not invest in postwar WHITES, as production would cease in the early 1950's.
After MACK stepped out of the bus-building business in 1960's, the "Tee-Yay"had but two choices for new buses, "Gee-Em" and FLXIBLE.
By this late date, ACF-BRILL had long ceased building buses (not that the "Tee-Yay" would have been interested, anyway)
Strange, also, how "Slinkies" (artics) were beginning to catch on here by the 1980's; at one time, buses such as these were mostly found in European cities; today, they are quite commonplace here in the States (and elsewhere)........
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hen's teeth were by far more commonplace than a suburban-model "DANGERFIELD" in the "Noo Yak" area, several decades ago.
Note this "PELHAM PARKWAY EXPRESS" example (photo taken in 1972) also features an ad frame behind the rear wheels; note, also, the unusual roller curtain reading......
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154544
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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