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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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This (TARS era) Times Square photo was taken in the "BS" era (Before Smut) 
This rare photo clearly illustrates one of the drawbacks to underground conduit operation (QUITE a back up of trolleys, here!) 
https://www.newdavesrailpix.com/tars/htm/tars123.htm
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Times Square in the TARS-era 1940's*; t'was, indeed, a QUITE different world (this scene is CLASSIC!) 
http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/tars/htm/tars033.htm
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
*Note the sign for the Jane Russell movie, "OUTLAW"; this would date the photo to 1943. |
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W.B. Fishbowl
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| Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Times Square in the TARS-era 1940's*; t'was, indeed, a QUITE different world (this scene is CLASSIC!)
http://www.newdavesrailpix.com/tars/htm/tars033.htm
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
*Note the sign for the Jane Russell movie, "OUTLAW"; this would date the photo to 1943. |
No, actually; some time in early December 1946, as Miss Youth Form (and the accompanying zipper, in that - ahem, form, first put up in late 1945 a few months after V-J Day) atop the Brill Building date it thus. As do the Robert Cummings movie The Chase, That Brennan Girl (with former Miss Subways Mona Freeman) at the Gotham, and the Bette Davis/Paul Henreid/Claude Rains flick Deception at the Strand. This was not long before the Broadway route was bustituted (on Dec. 15). Whilst The Outlaw originally came out in 1943, this would have been after the 1946 re-release.
It's also odd, as the release date for That Brennan Girl is universally given as Dec. 23, 1946 - at which point the TARS streetcars would have given way to Surface GM and Mack buses already. But the earliest known reference to That Brennan Girl at the Gotham was the Dec. 9 issue of The New York Times. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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W.B.:
Thanks for this info: I have found, when researching the release dates of vintage movies (when movies were actually WORTH viewing, and were viewed in opulent and grand movie houses on HUGE screens!) there is often much contradiction, regarding the dates in question.
Like everything else, types of movies (and their content matter) vastly changed over the decades; an "M" rated movie from 1968, would, most likely, be a virtually "G"-rated film these days!
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Vanderbilt Avenue, Brooklyn, back in the 1950's (and check out that cute lil' "Henry J" to the right of the bus!)
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156980
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W.B. Fishbowl
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| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | W.B.:
Thanks for this info: I have found, when researching the release dates of vintage movies (when movies were actually WORTH viewing, and were viewed in opulent and grand movie houses on HUGE screens!) there is often much contradiction, regarding the dates in question.
Like everything else, types of movies (and their content matter) vastly changed over the decades; an "M" rated movie from 1968, would, most likely, be a virtually "G"-rated film these days!
"NYO" |
It's one thing if only one movie is seen within a picture; it's quite another when there are three other films within the same vintage, playing in the same area, which - on top of dates I saw in old Times' and Daily News', pinpoint that particular pic as between Dec. 9 and 14, 1946. Of course by Dec. 15 and afterward, only red-and-cream "Go The Surface Way" buses would have passed through as those films were playing. |
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Broadway & 49th St., 1981 (note borrowed WAMATA Fishbowl, filling in for the grounded GRUMMANS)
The "sleaze factor" is still very evident here, as seen by the current "flick" at "THE CIRCUS". 
What really dates this photo is the then-ancient HOWARD JOHNSON'S sign, as well as the billboard for ZENEITH color televisions; the "VIDEO SHACK" also adds to the early-80's nostalgia (note, too, the "XEROX COPIES-5 CENTS" window sign)
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155771
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| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Broadway & 49th St., 1981 (note borrowed WAMATA Fishbowl, filling in for the grounded GRUMMANS)
The "sleaze factor" is still very evident here, as seen by the current "flick" at "THE CIRCUS".
What really dates this photo is the then-ancient HOWARD JOHNSON'S sign, as well as the billboard for ZENEITH color televisions; the "VIDEO SHACK" also adds to the early-80's nostalgia (note, too, the "XEROX COPIES-5 CENTS" window sign)
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155771
(courtesy: nycsubway.org) |
Zenith had been a fixture atop that building on the NE corner of 49th and Broadway since the 1950's at the very least. From 1972 to about 1978 that billboard was hawking their Chromacolor system. An office tower that houses Caroline's comedy club is now where that whole set of buildings (including the Rivoli Theatre) once stood.
In that period, video cassettes would mainly have been Betamax, but give it a few years and VHS would overtake them. |
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Here's another TARS-era photo (42nd & 6th); note the bus glimpsed in the left background.
That hulking taxi practically shouts out "1930's/1940's 'Noo Yawk'!"
https://www.newdavesrailpix.com/tars/htm/tarsfp069.htm
(courtesy: newdaverailpix)
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