BusTalk Forum Index BusTalk
A Community Discussing Buses and Bus Operations Worldwide!
 
 BusTalk MainBusTalk Main FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups BusTalk GalleriesBusTalk Galleries   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Buses and the Puerto Rican Day Parade/signs en Espanol, etc.
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 21, 22, 23 ... 28, 29, 30  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    BusTalk Forum Index -> New York City Buses
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 22279
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saame station, same year.

Note that both sign boxes on this prewar IND car are empty/blank; look closely, here, and see the "D60"* black-on-white plate that the IND car is carrying, in place of the usual white-on-black number plate)

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2282

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

*The "D60" number plate is interesting; I know I heard, awhile ago, that some IND cars were converted into trailers in later years, but cannot be sure that this car might have been one of them......
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 22279
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More cardboard signs displayed (Old Looks/GRUMMAN).......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154824

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154818

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155080

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 22279
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bainbridge & 208th St., 1982.....

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155769

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 22279
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Broadway & 50th St., 1981.

Here, note that the roller curtain is in place, with a cardboard card in the windshield bearing the same information (M104).......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155710

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 22279
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Broadway & 230th, 1981.....

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155749

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
W.B. Fishbowl



Age: 57
Joined: 02 Oct 2014
Posts: 2378
Location: New York, New York, USA

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those cardboard signs in front were especially of importance in 1974 with the great route numbering changes. Those I saw pictures of that I know of include:
(For 72nd Street Crosstown) M6 is now M30
I could imagine these others:
(For Jackson Heights line) QM15 is now M32
(For Elmhurst Crosstown) QM16 is now Q89
(For Fifth & Madison via Seventh) M2A is now M2
(For 65th Street Crosstown) M7 is now M29
(For York Avenue line) M11 is now M31 (which makes it all the more ironic that, having been extended along 57th Street since 1994 all the way to 11th Avenue, its eastbound route between 54th and 57th Streets travels along 10th Avenue - home of the M11 Ninth-Amsterdam route).
(For Story Avenue-Parkchester line) Bx5A is now Bx54

As I said, the only duplicative-numbered route that did not change was M10 Broadway, the ex-FACCo route running at that point between "135 St Only" and 168 Street, pull-in/pull-out only, so obscure and phantom it didn't even appear on bus maps or even route dispatcher's maps - and prone, on batwing side signs, to be displayed on the ex-NYCO M10 Eighth Avenue-Central Park West line (when it should have read '10 8th Ave / Central Pk W').
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 22279
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B,:

VERY informative, and VERY interesting; after reading your post, I can clearly see why such cardboard signs were of such importance, with the route numbering changes that took place in 1974.

This, in itself, I feel, makes for an interesting "study"......

"NYO"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 22279
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this 1971 photo taken at the BMT station at 14th St., we see the R-10 prototype, R-7A, looking quite clean, and, as yet, unmarred by graffiti.

Note that new "LL" route signs have been installed; note the different fonts of the route and destination signs......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2191

(courtesy: nycubway.org)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 22279
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a few more "random" cardboard signage pics......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155144

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155748

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154068 *

*Date this one to 1974

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
W.B. Fishbowl



Age: 57
Joined: 02 Oct 2014
Posts: 2378
Location: New York, New York, USA

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Here's a few more "random" cardboard signage pics......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155144

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155748

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154068 *

*Date this one to 1974

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

That '74 one with "Bruckner Blvd" - a few months after this, that TB branch would be rebranded Bx21.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 22279
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

With all the route changes taking place in 1974, it would seem that the "Em-Tee-Yay" was shelling out some $$$$ to have new roller curtains printed up/altered.

Too, when the WAMATA buses filled in for the AILING Grumman, temporary cardboard signs were a no-brainer; I've also wondered if there weren't any "spare" roller curtains" laying around (from scrapped/retired buses) that might have been used......

"NYO"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Posts: 22279
Location: NEW JOISEY

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WAMATA Flexies at St. George.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155309

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155782

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155776

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MaBSTOA 15



Age: 70
Joined: 27 Feb 2013
Posts: 1056

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New York Omnibus 2629... good idea to use roller curtains from scrapped TA/OA buses on the WMATA leased buses. Except, they would not work on the Washington buses... The TA/OA roller curtains were one solid piece about 53 inches wide. The WMATA buses had two or three curtains on the front. therefore the TA would have to spend money to alter the mechanisms.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
W.B. Fishbowl



Age: 57
Joined: 02 Oct 2014
Posts: 2378
Location: New York, New York, USA

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15 wrote:
New York Omnibus 2629... good idea to use roller curtains from scrapped TA/OA buses on the WMATA leased buses. Except, they would not work on the Washington buses... The TA/OA roller curtains were one solid piece about 53 inches wide. The WMATA buses had two or three curtains on the front. therefore the TA would have to spend money to alter the mechanisms.

Sounds almost like the split (two curtain) front roll signs on the 1960 FACL and ST Fishbowls, no . . . ?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
W.B. Fishbowl



Age: 57
Joined: 02 Oct 2014
Posts: 2378
Location: New York, New York, USA

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15 wrote:
New York Omnibus 2629... good idea to use roller curtains from scrapped TA/OA buses on the WMATA leased buses. Except, they would not work on the Washington buses... The TA/OA roller curtains were one solid piece about 53 inches wide. The WMATA buses had two or three curtains on the front. therefore the TA would have to spend money to alter the mechanisms.

Sounds almost like the split (two curtain) front roll signs on the 1960 FACL and ST Fishbowls, no . . . ?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    BusTalk Forum Index -> New York City Buses All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 21, 22, 23 ... 28, 29, 30  Next
Page 22 of 30

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group