BusTalk

[W.B. Fishbowl]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

W.B.:

Thanks; as always, looking forward to your "subway expedition" report, later in the week.

I had forgotten the "Brighton Belles" also "woikin" on the "Frankie"......

"NYO"

["Q BRIGHTON"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

"Brighton Belles" working on the "Frankie".......for now..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?97354

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?130191

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?62774

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?62087

(courtsey: nycsubway.org)

["S"]

["Q"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

The formidable, fearsome "TRIPLEX" units are seen here "woikin" the old Culver Shuttle.........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?6539

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?45825

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?69866

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["5 NINTH AVENUE"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

"TRIPLEX" units in service on the "Frankie", many years ago.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?113285 *

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?26391

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

*In this 1961 photo, note the "Kramden" glimpsed on the overpass; also, the ancient BRT line poles..........

["BMT LINES"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Over on SubChat, there has been much discussion of the IRT's 1938 WF cars; these photos depict the "WFs" and the H&M "Black" cars after they had been relegated to work service...........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?39334

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?24614

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?21749 (car had only recently been repainted into MOW yellow when this photo was taken)

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

["ST. LOUIS CAR CO."]

["A.C.F."]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Further comparisons........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?43157

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?21746

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

What I find interesting is that ALL H&M "Black" cars (Class "B"-"J") all shared the same "ogee"-type roof (the last "Black" cars were built by ACF, while the IRT's "WF" cars were built by St. Louis); unlike the "WF" cars, the "Black" cars were never equipped with bulkhead sign boxes.

Interesting, also, is that the postwar "Artens", along with the "R-12s/14s" also utilized this style roof............

"NYO"

["INTERBOROUGH"]

["HUDSON & MANHATTAN"]

[W.B. Fishbowl]

And on the WF cars, I see they had a thing for dashes in-between words:
"GUN-HILL-ROAD"

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Just was thinking.......

Given the threat of extremely high tides and beach erosion with the upcoming nor'easter, I am wondering if there will be any flooding concerns at St. George, and especially at Tottenville.

I would think that this would also effect ferry operations; interestingly, this will be the first "high impact" storm encountered by the new "Staten Island Rattlers" ("R-211s") since they entered service......wonder how they will perform.........

"NYO"

["SIR"]

[W.B. Fishbowl]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

W.B.:

Indeed, subway service to the Rockaways could be seriously impacted (recall the horrific damages inflicted upon the line's infrastructure during Sandy)

Too, the lines running through open cuts, lined with trees, often on both sides of the cut (I"m thinking the BMT in Brooklyn); think, also, LIRR and MN.

Also, yards, etc, near any shoreline (thinking now of NJT's yards at Hoboken)

NJT's North Jersey Coast Line often faces some significant issues during extreme weather events (plus, there is catenary as far south as Long Branch).

Also, wet leaves on slippery rails (how will the "Staten Island Rattlers" handle that issue?)

Let's wait and hope that there will not be too many serious issues......

"NYO"

["M"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Also...........

There could, indeed, also be weather-related issues on "the tubes" (PATH), on the extensive open sections west of Grove Street; also recall several subway stations being transformed into raging rapids, by rampaging flood waters, during the last several rainstorms.

Too, think of how MTA bus service could also be affected (flooding, detours, etc).......

"NYO"

["MTA Subway"]

["MTA Bus"]

[W.B. Fishbowl]

Meanwhile, it was noted that when OMNY takes full effect next year, transfers will be eliminated and on buses, you won't be able to deposit your coins into the machines next to the bus driver's seat.