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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now.......let's "fast forward" to 1971........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155107

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155112

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaBSTOA 15 wrote:
I thought you might enjoy these videos…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAC0jvtir_4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdUW7tj2IG0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSpgSBWztco

Ah, narrator Kevin Kennedy . . . one of the "Three Stars" of WPIX's news broadcasts up until the mid-1960's (alongside John Tillman and whoever was doing the weather at that point, whether Joe Bolton or Gloria Okon).
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B. Fishbowl wrote:
MaBSTOA 15 wrote:
I thought you might enjoy these videos…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAC0jvtir_4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdUW7tj2IG0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSpgSBWztco

Ah, narrator Kevin Kennedy . . . one of the "Three Stars" of WPIX's news broadcasts up until the mid-1960's (alongside John Tillman and whoever was doing the weather at that point, whether Joe Bolton or Gloria Okon).


W.B.:

Gloria Okon was then the WPIX weathergirl, and, she also plugged Arnold Brick Oven Bread, live on the set; recall, too, the news broadcast theme, (the news was sponsored by Con Ed) with the then-familiar cartoon character, "Dig We Must".

Six-plus decades is indeed a LONG time ("Officer Joe Bolton" hosted "The Little Rascals", later in the 60's, on WPIX)......

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Dig We Must Dangerfields" (Court & Sackett, 1972)......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154440

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154419

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

....if the "Dangerfields" received little respect during their many years of faithful service to the "Tee Yay" and MaBSTOA, rest assured that the postwar TWINS ("The Oddballs") received even less, given the fact that they were indeed ultra-minorities in the fleet, not to mention how short their service lives were in "Noo Yawk".

Obviously, as an example, SURFACE was not all that impressed with these postwar "Oddballs"....... Sad

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154551

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's only 1955, and already the postwar "Oddballs" have been put out to pasture.

Odd indeed that no other buyer could be found for these practically new buses...... Sad

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156960

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here, a trio of "Oddballs"* pose for the camera at the Ulmer Park Depot, in a far more dignified setting than the scrapyard depicted in the previous photo......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156954

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*(The postwar "Oddballs" (TWINS), Model 44-S, entered service between 1947 and 1948, and were numbered #1525-#1575/#1700-#1829)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
....if the "Dangerfields" received little respect during their many years of faithful service to the "Tee Yay" and MaBSTOA, rest assured that the postwar TWINS ("The Oddballs") received even less, given the fact that they were indeed ultra-minorities in the fleet, not to mention how short their service lives were in "Noo Yawk".

Obviously, as an example, SURFACE was not all that impressed with these postwar "Oddballs"....... Sad

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154551

(courtesty: nycsubway.org)

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I was already a teenager when 6000 and its mates plied the Bx12, as this photo of one heading west, not to City Island. Bx12 and the Concourse lines generally got the best buses. Is it possible they were still gasoline, not diesel?
Thanks. Joe
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

N4 Jamaica wrote:
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
....if the "Dangerfields" received little respect during their many years of faithful service to the "Tee Yay" and MaBSTOA, rest assured that the postwar TWINS ("The Oddballs") received even less, given the fact that they were indeed ultra-minorities in the fleet, not to mention how short their service lives were in "Noo Yawk".

Obviously, as an example, SURFACE was not all that impressed with these postwar "Oddballs"....... Sad

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154551

(courtesty: nycsubway.org)

["BX12 CITY ISLAND"]

I was already a teenager when 6000 and its mates plied the Bx12, as this photo of one heading west, not to City Island. Bx12 and the Concourse lines generally got the best buses. Is it possible they were still gasoline, not diesel?
Thanks. Joe


Joe:

According to "NEW YORK CITY TRANSIT SYSTEM BUS AND TROLLEY COACH FLEET" (Greller) the postwar TWINS were gas buses.

This was one of the reasons why these buses were not long to serve in New York; it was becoming increasingly more expensive to have both diesel and gas pumps at the garages.

The CTA had nearly 1000 postwar TWINS in service (all propane)

Quite a number of B&QT's trolley lines were replaced by the postwar TWINS.

Ironically, these buses disappeared after not too many years of service, whereas the old streetcars they replaced lasted for several decades.......

"NYO"

BTW: good to see you posting again; you've been indeed missed! Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here in 1949, we see a double-ended B&QT Peter Witt (8000 series) appearing to overtake a new TWIN.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?141997

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grand Army Plaza, 1949..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?118031

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A large grouping of postwar TWINS, as seen in 1955...........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156992

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's postwar TWIN #1709 at Kings Highway........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156956

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recall, also, that the long-defunct "NORTH SHORE BUS CO. INC" also once operated postwar TWINS.

In later years, the "Tee-Yay" would absorb the routes operated by this company.

There was also a 40-bus order that would have been delivered to NORTH SHORE, instead, wearing the company's gray and green paint, the buses went to the "Bee-Oh-Tee".

The first of the postwar TWINS for NORTH SHORE were 10 Model 41-S's, but, these too, went to the "Bee-Oh-Tee"........

(source: NEW YORK CITY TRANSIT BUSES", Guy. E. Martin)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we have a postwar TWIN running beneath the old BMT Fulton El, near Broadway Junction.

The Fulton El would cease running in 1956, not long after this photo was taken.

The elevated train seen here is a BMT "C" Unit, rebuilt in the 1920's from obsolete open-platform cars..............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?112760

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