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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 8:33 pm Post subject:

W.B.:

Talking about transit collectibles being so overpriced these days.....imagine the astronomical price tag on a side batwing sign from a PSNJ Fishbowl?? Shocked

That is, if one such sign still even exists......... Idea

"NYO"

["44 BERGENLINE"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2026 9:45 pm Post subject:

Quick question:

How many of the MTA's Fishbowls had a/c at the time of retirement?

"Dangerfields"?

Appreciate info..........

"NYO"

['AIR CONDITIONED"]

W.B. Fishbowl · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2026 7:39 am Post subject:

Let's see . . . the last non-A/C's (of both) were retired around 1984. That would mean that when the last of the "Dangerfields" were put to pasture in 1993, and the remaining Fishbowls in 1995, all such buses on the roads at their respective times were A/C.

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:50 pm Post subject:

W.B.:

Thanks for this info; this is just what I was curious about.

Though I know all PSNJ "suboibans" had a /c, I wonder how many of the transits had a/c; the only ones I know for certain that had a/c were the "Z=300S", which I commuted on daily for years ..........

"NYO"

["21 WEST NEW YORK"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2026 11:43 pm Post subject:

Further............

Theex-PSNJ "Z-300s" acked an a/c unit over the rear windows ;inside, a long duct ran the length of the bus, installed on one side where the ad cards would normally be displayed.

These a/c units could have been used on a PFE reefer!!!!!!!!

"NYO"

["PSNJ"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2026 11:30 pm Post subject:

Travel time comparisons..............

After the El closed down in 1973,I wonder if anyone compared the length of time it took for the replacement "stoa" buses to negotiate the rouite of the former elevated line.

Something is telling me that the trains were faster (and, indeed, could handle more passengers per rip)............

"NYO"

["SHUTTLE"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2026 9:07 pm Post subject:

... .just thinking of those misguided NIMBYs who thought that demolishing the El (as well as the BMT's Jamaica El) was going toiimprove the "quality of life" in the area.

Yeah, right.

At least, the BMT el was replaced by a new subway line; no such luck for the venerable "Toid Aven-uh"El up in "da Bronx"......... Sad

"NYO"

["IRT LINES"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2026 9:09 am Post subject:

...........and, surely, the "crush load" capacity for an IRT car was still far greater than that of any replacement bus.

Too, buses could not berun in SETS, as were the trains they replaced.........

'NYO"

["SHUTTLE"]

["OA"]

W.B. Fishbowl · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 9:42 am Post subject:

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2026 2:25 pm Post subject:

W.B.:

GOOD point!

You's Truly rode this jam-packed IRT "SMEEs" for many years, and, I can tell you, you could cram a LOT of folks into those cars! Shocked

"NYO"

["IRT LINES"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2026 6:31 pm Post subject:

Curious:

1:

When were the last "stoa" buses repainted from the original"Tee-Yay"green (mid- 70s)

2:

Jow many buses had "bowling allet" seating?

"NYO"

["OA"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2026 7:24 pm Post subject:

Broadway & 216th Sr., 1972..............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?155741

*courtesy: nycsubway.org)

At the time of this photo, was the ex-TARS car house (now a "stoa" garage) a "hpme base" for only Fishbowls, or were "Dangerfields" also stabled here?

"NYO"

["MaBSTOA"]

W.B. Fishbowl · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2026 10:59 pm Post subject:

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2026 11:29 pm Post subject:

W.B,:

Appreciate the info.

I was also thinking that the former TARS carhoisew as then a Fishbowl-only gaxility, as, in the photo, only "Gee-Ems" are to be seen...........

"NYO"

["GMC"]

W.B. Fishbowl · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2026 6:08 am Post subject: