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W.B. Fishbowl
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2026 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Driver orientation.............
When the "foist" of the RTS began arriving in "Noo YawK", I am curious if there were "driver orientation" classes, to familiarize drivers with the new "space age" buses?
I am sure that the drivers felt quite "alien" not being at the controls of a Fishbowl or a "Dangerfield"......
"NYO"
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Quite possibly, just as I can envision orientation training sessions for Fishbowls when the first "Jetsons" arrived on "Tee-Yay" property in 1959, after the last decade (in their case) of "Kramdens." Especially since the Fishbowls at 102" were wider than the 96" "Kramdens." |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2026 12:53 am Post subject: |
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W.B.:
Thanks; alli nteresting historical info.
Just now thking of MTA drivers being trained to operate the initial batch of "Slinkies", back in the day......now THAT had to be INTERESTING, for "soitan"!
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2026 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Further..........
Indeed, "En-Jay-Tee" drivers also had to have an onteresting time of it, when those totally horrendous VOLVO artics began arriving, in the later 1980s.............
"NYO"
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MaBSTOA 15
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2026 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| What became of the NJT 30 foot RTS buses? |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2026 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="MaBSTOA 15"]What became of the NJT 30 foot RTS buses?[/quote
MaBSTOA 15:
That's good question; I've long wondered about what happened to these 30-footers myself.
I remember seeing them on the #751; NJT had them painted in this horrible-looking "wave" scheme that did nothing for them.
Also, I've wondered about the fate of the ex-MTA RTS tha tACADEMY was then using on the "22"(these were GOOD buses!!)
I also recall ACADEMY, back in the late 1990s, operating a 30-foot RTS "EMPLOYEE BUS" that I rode a few times years ago, when no other buses on the "BOULEVARD EAST" route were available (this MIGHT have been an ex-DART bus)
VERY few seats and NO a/c.....(!!)]
"NYO"
(those used on the #751 were replaced by NABIs)
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MaBSTOA 15
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2026 8:17 am Post subject: |
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The 1999 Motor Bus Society convention and the APTA convention were held in Orlando.
I attended both and had the opportunity to inspect a NJT 30 foot RTS that was on display. If memory serves me right it had perimeter seating making the bus very spacious.
My only other experience with a 30 foot RTS was in Burlington, Vermont. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2026 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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MaBSTOA15:
Sure wish I had also attended those conventions!
I never, sadly, got a chance yo ride on of NJT's 30-footers on the#751 (I DID see them regularly, though); the last time I rode that line (out to Hackensack and the Bergen Mall (Paramus) the line still used NDDOT
"Dangerfields".
If my memory serves me correctly, NJT (which purchased RTS late in the game) did not operate them as long as I believe they could have; NJT kept the hard-working Metro "Bs" for many years.
The RTS was the last "new" bus I really liked; hard to believe they already been gone for so many years........
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2026 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| MaBSTOA 15 wrote: | The 1999 Motor Bus Society convention and the APTA convention were held in Orlando.
I attended both and had the opportunity to inspect a NJT 30 foot RTS that was on display. If memory serves me right it had perimeter seating making the bus very spacious.
My only other experience with a 30 foot RTS was in Burlington, Vermont. |
MaBSTOA 15:
Your commenting here on the seating used in the 30-footers jogged my memory; I DID, in fact, ride these buses several times, while they were still being used on the #751 (this was TNJ'sold "B-1" long, long ago);
I might have even spapped a photo or two of these RTS Jrs", years ago..................
"NYO"
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MaBSTOA 15
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 8:54 am Post subject: |
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I beg to differ but this not a 30 footer. This is a 35 foot RTS model T7W-604 of January 1984.
The 30 footer had two window modules between the doors and the 35 footers had three window modules between the doors.
According to RTS production list neither Avis nor Hertz had any shorty RTS buses.
Also, this is a GMC and they never produced a 30 footer only NOVA did. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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MaBSTOA 15L
Appreciate the correction; thank you!
Cannot believe I have not seen or ridden on an RTS is some 20-odd years; sure wish NJT kept them longer............
"NYO"
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