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Farewell to Metro North West-of-Hudson rail service?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2026 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Excellent page with numerous rare McKeen blueprints, diagrams, etc.......

https://mckeencar.com/gallery/history-of-the-mckeen-motor-car/

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess the McKeen cars were too much car, too futuristic, and too unreliable!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
(SEE PREVIOUS POST)

Excellent page with numerous rare McKeen blueprints, diagrams, etc.......

https://mckeencar.com/gallery/history-of-the-mckeen-motor-car/

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That is a detailed page!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2026 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
I guess the McKeen cars were too much car, too futuristic, and too unreliable!


Cyberider:

Weird how sometimes history can repeat itself...........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budd_SPV-2000

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2026 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_class_railcar

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2026 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

METRO-NORTH once operated the "SPV"in midday shuttle service, connecting with NJT main line trains from Hoboken; the cars were notorious for a host of mechanical issues

Unlike the tried-and-true RDCs, these units were not at all popular with neither crews or commuters.

Design-wise,they were good-looking cars, recalling the original "METROLINERS"; however, here, beauty was indeed only skin-deep........

https://trains-and-railroads.com/budd-spv-2000

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2026 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These photos were taken at the New Haven yards.............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?98143

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?98142

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?98147

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2026 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With all the failures of other self-powered cars, it's almost surprising that the RDC was such a success.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2026 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
With all the failures of other self-powered cars, it's almost surprising that the RDC was such a success.


Cyberider:

I totally agree.

The only other self-propelled railcars that were both rugged and reliable were the tried-and-true "doodlebugs".

The RDCs, indeed, were QUITE exceptional, in so many ways; no wonder so many railroads rostered them! Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2026 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in the 1970s, the LIRR experimented with gas-turbine cars...........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?67778

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2026 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an interesting page; detailed article and photos (some historic).........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas-turbine_locomotive

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2026 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Back in the 1970s, the LIRR experimented with gas-turbine cars...........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?67778

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Interesting! I hadn't heard about this one before. Apparently a one-of-a-kind not to be repeated?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2026 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider:

The GE turbines were the cars most like the M-1 MUs; these units featured escalator-type steps in the vestibules!

The fas-turbine cars roared like jet airliners, and could not be used on late-night runs, as, the noise was so loud, every light in every house would goon, along the tracks, waking up entire neighborhoods!

Fuel consumption was beyond exorbinant.

The GE cars were later converted into "M-1" MUsl; the Garrettt cars were all scrapped, as they were too expensive to convert into electrics......

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2026 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds similar to other gas turbine conversions for trains and buses.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2026 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
Sounds similar to other gas turbine conversions for trains and buses.


Cyberider:

You might be interested in MUNI's 1970s experimental steam-powered Fishbowl.....9(!) Shocked Wink

https://www.sfmta.com/blog/munis-steam-powered-bus

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