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161st St., 1964/Along 3rd Avenue/Da Bronx
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2026 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Appreciate the info; this tlls me all I wanted to know to know....thanks!

Of course, our NJDOT "Dangerfields" were newer, dating to about 1976/1977, and thus held on awhile longer.

I recall NJT's lasting into the late r1990s, at leas t(NJT's dreaded "Disco Dip"s scheme did NOTHING fo them....or any other bus, for that matter) Razz

Last Hudson County "Dangerfield" I recall was an ex-WAMATA bus, obviously one of the "rescue" buses that filled in for the sidelined "Bombers" in the early 1980s.

It was running on the old NHBL #1, and I rode it for months each morning until iy finally disappeared. Sad

Last Fishbowl I knew "up close" was an ex-Cleveland single-door coach, running on the # 1 out of Journal Square, in the PM (I also riode this bus daily (the driver, a bud of mine, who was a dedad-ringer for Desi Arnaz, said he preferred Fishbowls to any other bus then in service)

It was retired about 1998,,,,,,,the last Fishbowl I ever rode on.............an era had indeed ended...... Sad

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've long thought of this.......

With "da Bronx" in a sready freefall by the early 1970s, I've always wondered why the MTA simply did not allow the last "Kramdens" to continue to serve the borough, at least until after the El was closed in 1973 (after all, these buses were NOT all that old, at the time),........

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
I've long thought of this.......

With "da Bronx" in a sready freefall by the early 1970s, I've always wondered why the MTA simply did not allow the last "Kramdens" to continue to serve the borough, at least until after the El was closed in 1973 (after all, these buses were NOT all that old, at the time),........

"NYO"

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Regardless of "da Bronx' " increasingly decrepit state, even with that the "Em-Tee-Yay" was all gung-ho about the "shiny and new." It speaks volumes that the "Tee-Yay's" own "Kramdens" outlasted those " 'stoa" inherited from both FACL and ST, doesn't it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Agreed.......

Look at the number of the circa-1971/1972 photos of "Kramdens" (nycsubway.org) still on the Job elsewhere, at least dor a short while...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As witness..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154821

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154825

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154653

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154626

(courtesy:nycsubway.org)

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