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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2026 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On this day in 1973........

The first train of new "R-44s"("ME-2s") entered service on the SIRT; this train was a three-car consist.

Soon, the ancient, nostalgic "Staten Island Toonervilles" ("ME-1s)" would be put out to pasture.

Back in '73, I doubt anyone ever thought that these now-iconic cars would remain in service for over 50 years........

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2026 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's 1973, and a new era is dawning on "The Isle of Staten"..................

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?138685 (note proud veteran SIRT motorman, leaning out the cab window)

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?45587 "END OF NOWHERE"(note retired E-L ferryboat "ELMIRA" in the distance)

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2026 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
On this day in 1973........

The first train of new "R-44s"("ME-2s") entered service on the SIRT; this train was a three-car consist.

Soon, the ancient, nostalgic "Staten Island Toonervilles" ("ME-1s)" would be put out to pasture.

Back in '73, I doubt anyone ever thought that these now-iconic cars would remain in service for over 50 years........

"NYO"

{"St. George"]

And outlast not only the ME-1's, but also the subway R-44's.

Would this by any chance make the newer R-211S's, ME-3's?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2026 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

I was thinking along the same lines as yourself ; in fact, I've been referring to the SIR "R-211S" as "ME-3s" since they first began testing along the SIR's rails.

Hard to believe that they are now the third generation of electrics to serve commuters on the fabled "Isle of Staten".......

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2026 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad..........

Too bad that the MTA never thought to retain a set of "ME-1s", and restore them for Staten Island Nostalgia Specials Sad

Imagine a set of "ME-1s" and a set of "ME-2s"("R-44s"), operating Nostalgia Specials on the "Isle of Staten"......bet those trips would have ALL been SELL-OUTS, for sure! Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...........just wondering how commuters on the "Isle of Staten" are dealing with the "backs to the wall" subway-style seating on the "R-211S".........something us telling me that more than a few are now indeed missing the old "R-44" seating arrangement.

Also, wondering how the "Staten Island Rattlers" will fare during the hot, humid,"Noo Yawk" summers.........

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
...........just wondering how commuters on the "Isle of Staten" are dealing with the "backs to the wall" subway-style seating on the "R-211S".........something us telling me that more than a few are now indeed missing the old "R-44" seating arrangement.

Also, wondering how the "Staten Island Rattlers" will fare during the hot, humid,"Noo Yawk" summers.........

"NYO"

['SIR"]

Yeah, we're going to find out in due time, no? Especially given how the "shiny and new" nearly melted under such conditions last summer.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
...........just wondering how commuters on the "Isle of Staten" are dealing with the "backs to the wall" subway-style seating on the "R-211S".........something us telling me that more than a few are now indeed missing the old "R-44" seating arrangement.

Also, wondering how the "Staten Island Rattlers" will fare during the hot, humid,"Noo Yawk" summers.........

"NYO"

['SIR"]

Yeah, we're going to find out in due time, no? Especially given how the "shiny and new" nearly melted under such conditions last summer.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2026 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B,:

One "saving grace" with the SIR is that, except for the short tunnel between St. George and Tompkinsville, there are no other tunnels.

This, IMHO, would eliminate the 'Rattlers" running in hot, humid, poorly-ventilated tunnels, for long stretches.

Well, we shall see what we shall see, once another typical "Noo Yawk" summer is upon us............

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2026 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

.....and here we thought that the "R211S" were faring pretty well (considering) during the recent blizzard;; something us telling me that that that the upcoming summer months are NOT going to treat them too kindly........... Rolling Eyes

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