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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 30866 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2025 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
Good point to bring up.
It was desecration enough that the "Pee-Yay" turned the sleek, stylish interior of the old "Port-of-Authority" into nothing more than a glorified 80's shopping mall.
The TOTAL destruction of the stunning, iconic 1950 exterior facing 8th Avenue, and replacing it with the hideous monstrocity that is still there today, was nothing short of wanton VANDALISM.
The historic Toronto terminal was indeed a true MONUMENT to the glory days of intercity bus travel, an era, sadly, we will never see the likes of again.......
"NYO"
["OTTAWA"]
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 59 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 4511 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:52 am Post subject: |
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Is it my imagination, or is the new "toiminal" one of those soulless, sterile "monstrosities" we keep hearing about anything that's "modern"? |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2025 9:42 am Post subject: |
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W.B.:
RIGHT ON THE MARK, MY FRIEND (sadly)
These days, "modern" automatically translates into HIDEOUS!!
'nuff said.
Just thinking now.........
Odd that GREYHOUND never had its own dedicated terminal in Newark; the State's largest city.
Since Penn Station opened in the 1930s; GREYHOUND has its ""toiminal" there, albeit but a "curb stop".
Just where in Newark did "the Running Dog" call in Newark prior to the opening of Penn Station, is still a mystery to Your's Truly (perhaps their buses stopped at the massive PS Terminal; MARTZ did, for many years)
GREYHOUND, way back when, also called at Elizabeth............
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Bus turntables.......
Back in the day, the only other bus turntable in the New York area was at the CNJ's Jersey City terminal, where, until 1958, B&O train connection buses from New York (arriving via ferry) were turned.
This unique turntable was located just beyond the train sheds; buses used a paved roadway (formerly occupied by Tracks#'s2 and 3) to access the lower level of the ferry terminal...........
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:55 am Post subject: |
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for a time in Guadalarja, the trolleybuses were turned on a turntable located in a tunnel (see top photo/info)
Imagine the MTA or NJT using such a setup(!!)
www.tramz.com/tb/s.html |
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 59 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 4511 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2025 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| From what I've seen of model drawings, as bad as the current "Pea-Yay-Bee-Tee" has been since their vandalistic "remodeling" in the late 1970's, the new one about to be erected will no doubt make the current "monstrocity" look as elegant as the original 1950 terminal by comparison. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:55 am Post subject: |
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| W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | | From what I've seen of model drawings, as bad as the current "Pea-Yay-Bee-Tee" has been since their vandalistic "remodeling" in the late 1970's, the new one about to be erected will no doubt make the current "monstrocity" look as elegant as the original 1950 terminal by comparison. |
W.B.:
Guess seeing a BUS "toiminal" constructed that actually LOOKS like a BUS "toominal" is but wishful thinking.
Still, I have NO REGRETS over the razing of the current monstrocity ("TINO": "Terminal In Name Only").......the real damage took place over 40 years ago.......
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W.B. Fishbowl
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 11:09 am Post subject: |
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I was actually inside that "toiminal," twice, both in early 2002 - first, en route to Utah to attend the Slamdance Film Festival where my film, Lefty-Right, was up for an award ("Too Short to Be a Feature, but Too Long to Be a Short"), and secondly on my way back to "Noo Yawk." I could see the "moderne," but at that juncture (plus, it didn't help that it was late at night), it was rather dull.
I also seem to have been in what passed for a "toiminal" in "Shik-aga," likewise twice. Second time, as the passengers discharged for a tune-up, I took the "Blue Line" subway for a few stops (was struck by how much the roadbed resembled the "Eye-En-Dee" here but for no protective cover on the "toid" rail) - and, back at the "toiminal," was switched to a more express bus that would take me to "Noo Yawk" sooner. (Good think I took all my bags with me whilst doing so.) |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee

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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
VERY interesting, indeed; glad you got to "pass through" that "Moderne" facility in "Kleev-land"!
Today's modern bus/rail "toiminals" all pretty much of the same ilk; bland, cold, soulless, and, sadly, all-too-often BIZARRE.
So much for "progress"...........
"NYO"
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