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NYC/London congestive pricing (Eyewitness News)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2025 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Interesting! Wink

For some reason, this is making me think if the Fishbowls rostered by NHBL (those equipped with rear exits) many years ago.

By the mid-70s, these exit doors were taken OOS; the stepwell was plated over, and a double (plastic) seat was onstalled.

By the time this procedure was taking place (why it was even taking place is still a mystery to Your's Truly) the few remaining Old Looks in the NHBL fleet were single-door models, so those buses which had rear doors were never so converted.............

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2025 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what is meant, the differences:

TA 1959-62:
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153366

FACL/ST 1960:
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153828

(all courtesy nycsubway.org)

I remember the latter type on some "Joisey" Fishbowls, likely PSNJ/TNJ's lot:

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154508

(courtesy nycsubway.org)

B.T.W., the SubChat and BusChat forums are becoming wonky again . . .
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2025 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Appreciate this info; I was never aware of this....thanks for the "heads up"! Wink

To be totally honest, Your's Truly had no idea just how many interesting variations there were over the years, during the years of Fishbowl production, until I purchased my copy of "WELCOME ABOARD THE GM NEW LOOK BUS".......I was truly amazed at how much I was NOT aware of! Shocked

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BTW:

Yeah, I've also noticed that SubChat/BusChat has been pretty "wonky", the past few days (more offline than onlone, for sure) Razz

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2025 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Any clue as to how many retired "Fordy Fours" are still on "The Isle of Staten", awaiting their final destination?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2025 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
W.B.:

Any clue as to how many retired "Fordy Fours" are still on "The Isle of Staten", awaiting their final destination?

"NYO"

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I don't know if I'll do it today, but I'll have a report some time within the next week as to how many are remaining. It is especially pertinent given rain and even snow in the forecast.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2025 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B. Fishbowl wrote:
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
W.B.:

Any clue as to how many retired "Fordy Fours" are still on "The Isle of Staten", awaiting their final destination?

"NYO"

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I don't know if I'll do it today, but I'll have a report some time within the next week as to how many are remaining. It is especially pertinent given rain and even snow in the forecast.


W.B.:

I indeed look forward (as always!) to your "on the spot" report! Wink

"Noo Yawk" is supposedly going to get perhaps a bit of wet snow before going over to all rain on Tuesday; it will certainly be interesting as to how the "Staten Island Rattlers" ("SIR") perform on slippery rails............

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2025 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Curious.......

Are there more sets of "R-211s" now operating on the "Bee"?

Are any of the old "veterans" still on the line, or have they now all been replaced?

Appreciate info.....

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2025 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thinking...........

Wondering now how the straphangers who are now riding lines currently using the soon-to-be-retired "Brighton Belle" R-68s will find the new seating arrangement utilized on the replacement "R-211s"................ Rolling Eyes

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