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October 31, 1956: An Era Ends In Brooklyn
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
On this date in 1969, it was the end of a long and colorful era in Brooklyn; farewell "Moit"........... Crying or Very sad

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?112746

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?112753

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?112754

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From what I could see, it looked to me like their "toid" rail was similar to what the original "Eye-Are-Tee" sections (read: 1904) used.

But it also juxtaposed with the Mets winning their "foist" of two (to date) "Woild" Championships. Too bad the "Moit" didn't survive that triumph. Unlike with the "Toid Aven-yah" el in "da Bronx" whose 1938 WF cars did manage to hold on for that - but barely.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
W.B.:

Agreed.

If the "Moit" only held on just that little bit longer............ Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Elswhere...............

I've "hoid" some totally-unrealistic ideas for rebuilding both the "Moit" and the old Culver shuttle......AIN'T NO WAY, JOSE!!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

If these old elevated lines weren't wanted decades (by the MTA) they certainly would NOT be needed TODAY.

IMHO, the "Culver" began its long, long slide into decay.....and eventual oblivion......when it was no longer a "through" route, and was reduced to shuttle status............. Sad

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culver_Shuttle

At the time the Shuttle was shut down in 1975, you still had some ancient "Arnines" cavorting around the system, and the MTA bus fleet was 100% Fishbowls and "Dangerfields" (free transfers were issued for the B35)

Houses have since been built over a portion of the former elevated Culver ROW..........

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culver_Shuttle

At the time the Shuttle was shut down in 1975, you still had some ancient "Arnines" cavorting around the system, and the MTA bus fleet was 100% Fishbowls and "Dangerfields" (free transfers were issued for the B35)

Houses have since been built over a portion of the former elevated Culver ROW..........

"NYO"

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At the time of the closure, " 'stoa" routes in Manhattan and the Bronx still didn't offer transfers, a policy dating back to the settlement of the January 1962 TWU strike against FACL. That would change in the fall, when the fare increased from 35 to 50 cents, and the "Em-Tee-Yay" instituted a half-fare "Add-a-Ride" transfer system all around.

The last FACL "Jetsons" and the earliest of the "Tee-Yay's" lot were retired by this time, but you still had those futuristic-looking buses criss-crossing Manhattan, Brooklyn and two zones of Queens on key "Tee-Yay" routes.

Another point: The Culver Shuttle's closure came before the "foist" of the R-46's began entering the subway system.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
W.B.:

Indeed, the transit scene in "Noo Yawk" was far more "diverse" and "colorful" than it is today; don't forget, back then, the IRT was still 100% SMEE, and the now-iconic "Fordy-Fours" were still proudly displaying their classic blue stripes.

I did not know of the Culver Shuttle until I got my first copy of Stan Fischler's (softcover) "UPTOWN, DOWNTOWN"; of course, by that time, the old "Culver" had already been abandoned (the "Indiana Jones" in me would have had a field day, exploring that "lost line")........ Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This was about as close to the old Culver Shuttle (at least in proximity to) that the veteran "Fordy-Fours" ever got............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?151450

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quick question......

What was the newest class of car to operate on the Culver Shuttle?

I'm thinking of a few types, but am not totally positive.

Thanks......

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Quick question......

What was the newest class of car to operate on the Culver Shuttle?

I'm thinking of a few types, but am not totally positive.

Thanks......

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The last ones to operate on the shuttle - R-27's.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
W.B.:

I would concur; I've seen a number of photos of the "27s/30s" on the Shuttle, in the years after the "Broadway Battleships" (Standards) were retired..........

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A few glimpses of "27s/30s" on the Culver Shuttle...........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?4675

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?4446

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?4505

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