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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
W.B.:

Did not know about the "El-Eye-Double-Are" replacing their old "toid" rail; thanks for the info.

Any particular reason for this?

"NYO"

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Other than "energy efficiency" and trying to conform that to the subways?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Sounds pretty "valid"; more "family resemblance", as Brian Cudahy once called it, between the MTA's subways and the "El-Eye-Double-Are"? Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few nostalgic views where the "toid" rail of the old "Aitch & Em" recall long-ago days on "the tubes".................

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?21776

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?138967

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?21746

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long before "rolling iPads" ruled "the tubes".............

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?24777 *

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*(If I only had $1 for every time I rode these handsome cars, throughout the years!) Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"WHERE'S LONE STAR??" Question

The cockpit of the "Millenium Falcon" or the cab of a rapid transit car?

Nearly impossible to decipher between the two............. Rolling Eyes

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?102284

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of "Millennium Falcon" . . .

. . . London's newer "double deckers" are also rolling time bombs, as evidenced by this incident . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDjmbDijmtY

. . . yet they claim it was staged for a new movie being filmed. Yeah, right. Many Londoners were understandably confused by all that.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Did know of this; thanks for the " 'eads up"

Take ONE good look at the newest (ugly as all bloody 'ell, guv'nor!) double-deckers in London, and you KNOW they are just as "beefed up" with "electronic steroids" as any modern NTT rapid transit car. Sad

NEVER had to worry about this with old tried-and-true "RTs" and "Routemasters"......."BLIMEY, MATE!"

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

["LOCK IN AND ENERGIZE!"]

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?139721

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"BACK TO BASICS" Wink

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?56167

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The historic ex-H&M station at Christopher Street still proudly displays its original, majestic marquee (note "HUDSON TUNNELS" lettering)

Your's Truly took a number of photos of this distinctive station entance, back in the early 1980s...........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?21804

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ain't it odd.........

The interior of a modern "NTT" subway car looks as much like a "traditional" subway car as a VW Beetle resembles a Cadillac; and yet, in London, as "hi tech" as the current "tube stock" are, they STILL have that distinctive "tube" design......and, surprisingly enough, the current "UndergrounD' stock's interiors STILL have the familiar "look" of a London "tube" car.

Earlier, I came across a photo of a smiling London Mayor Sadiq Khan at the controls of a modern "UndergrounD" train; the controls are in a "condensed cockpit" (a la "Millenium Falcon"), but still along the lines of what you'll find here on the NTTs.

It is also interesting to note that, unlike here in "Noo Yawk", London railfans never had to lament the passing of the iconic railfan window, as we have here in "Noo Yawk".

Wy?

ALL London "tube" trains have always had full-width cabs, since the days of the earliest MU units in the early 1900s, and, thus, NO railfan window.........

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Ain't it odd.........

The interior of a modern "NTT" subway car looks as much like a "traditional" subway car as a VW Beetle resembles a Cadillac; and yet, in London, as "hi tech" as the current "tube stock" are, they STILL have that distinctive "tube" design......and, surprisingly enough, the current "UndergrounD' stock's interiors STILL have the familiar "look" of a London "tube" car.

Earlier, I came across a photo of a smiling London Mayor Sadiq Khan at the controls of a modern "UndergrounD" train; the controls are in a "condensed cockpit" (a la "Millenium Falcon"), but still along the lines of what you'll find here on the NTTs.

It is also interesting to note that, unlike here in "Noo Yawk", London railfans never had to lament the passing of the iconic railfan window, as we have here in "Noo Yawk".

Wy?

ALL London "tube" trains have always had full-width cabs, since the days of the earliest MU units in the early 1900s, and, thus, NO railfan window.........

"NYO"

["MOVE WHERE? EDGEWARE!"]

It makes you wonder, then: Was "Noo Yawk" (and even PATH), in eliminating RFW's, out to emulate London? (I should note that there is some semblance of "Are-Eff-Dubyah's" in "Noo Yawk" because the doors to the full-width cabs have windows, though many have kaleidoscopic distortions; PATH eliminated them altogether with the PA-5's.)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.

Good point.

Recall, in "Noo Yawk", the first "production model" cars to have full-width cabs (a la London) were the BMT's articulated "Multis" (at the time, there was some talk of these units operating in OPTO mode)

Remember, also, the RFW-equipped end doors of the "M1's" and "M-3s" on the "El-Eye-Double-Are" and Metro-"Nawth"; I still fondly recall those RFW jaunts out to Ronkonkama on the "El-eye-Double-Are", over 20 years ago! Very Happy

Today's younger fans are MORE than missing out on a great experience, on what so many of us grew up with, and, sadly, took for granted.....one of the greatest thrills of all......

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More positive MTA (LIRR) "nooze"..........

Just "hoid" on 1010 WINS that there could be an LIRR strike as early as next month; five unions are involved.

Last "El-Eye-Double-Are" strike was 31 years ago; thankfully for the legions of "Dashing Dans", the strike only last three days, and trains were again up and running for the Monday morning rush.

Back then, the MU fleet was the undisputed domain of the "M-1s" and "M-3s".

Stay tuned.........

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting.......

Just "hoid" on 1010 WINS waelier that "Ho-Hokul" has given the "green light" for the funds to extend the Second Avenue "STUBway" (IF this extension is completed, Your's Truly will be 74 when all is done!) Shocked

With the millions pouring into the "cash strapped" MTA's coffers, via "Congestive Pricing" tolls, I would have thought that funding for the SAS extension was ALREADY there. Rolling Eyes Shocked Question

I'm sure that this is going to turn into yet another corporate "soap opera"........... Razz

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