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The late 1960s................

Not at all surprising that the "Tee-Yay" "Pattons" were retired several years before the last "Kramdens"; it was the same here in "Joisey".,.....by the late 1960s, the non-"Gee-Em" buses were the "foist" to go, as new Fishbowls arrived......

'NYO"

["SURE-IT'S A MACK!"]

[NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629]

Here in "Joisey"..............

When the "foist" influx of Fishbowls began to appear in my area about late 1966/1967, the "foist" of the "Gee-Em" buses to be retired were the "square windows" (this purge also included the late-model YELLOWS then still running)

Meanwhile, the "Pattons", WHITES, ACF-BRILLS, and assorted other antiques that had lasted so long and served so well (this included some prewar buses still in use) disappeared rapidly.

If memory serves Your's Truly correctly, the last "Pattons" disappeared in 1967/1968; after that, it was all 'Gee-Em" buses (the remaining "Shermans" and the Fishbowls) before the NJDOT "Dangerfields" began arriving in large numbers, later in the 70s.

Yes, I was there to witness the "changing of the guard"..........

"NYO"

["1 JOURNAL SQUARE"]

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I might have inquired about this long ago elsewhere.........

Did the "Tee-Yay" have a "rollsign shop" at each garage/depot, or only at the larger ones?

I've always been curious as to the "upkeep" of the curtains and their respective signboxes (and also, when and where "splicing" took places, when routes were changed/re-numbered)

As always, appreciate info......

"NYO"

["New York City Transit Authority"]

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Also, repairs, etc to "batwings".............

"NYO:

["BUS-O-RAMA"]

[W.B. Fishbowl]

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W.B.:

GREAT info; just what I wished to know!

"Boigen" Street; wasn't that where the B&QT trolleybuses were based?

I CRINGE when I think of the thousands of roller curtains that were either simply trashed when such signage fell out of favor, or simply left inside the buses when they were scrapped.

Man, I wish I had even ONE batwing rear-door curtain.........again, think of the many hundreds simply tossed in the dumpster, with no regard to history.......

"NYO"

["NYCTA"]

[W.B. Fishbowl]

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W.B.:

Thanks for this additional info.

I still shudder to think of the hundreds of "Soiface" and FACCo/FACL/NYO roller curtains that were simply tossed in the dumpsters, thought of nothing but redundant old trash.

NO WONDER that even SEGMENTS of roller curtains command such astronomical prices today...........

"NYO"

["RIDE THE SURFACE WAY"]

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W.B.:

This one's for you............

When did the "Em-Tee-Yay" abandon any and all "official" usage of references to "MaBSTOA"?

Also, what were the last "stoa" routes" to use the GRUMMAN (aka "Borough Bombers") and the "Are-Tee-Es"? (also, when were these buses last used on "stoa" routes?

As always, appreciate info.............

"NYO"

["MaBSTOA"]

[W.B. Fishbowl]

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W.B.:


Appreciate, as always, your always in-depth info!

Indeed, those "Are-Tee-Es" were "Mab-stoic"; though Your's Truly never rode on in Manhattan, I certainly was no stranger to them here in "Joisey" *when we FINALLY got them!), especially the ex-"Em-Tee-Yay" buses that ACADEMY purchased....my FAVES, all the way!

Funny you mentioned that old "Eyewitness News" report; I had not thought of it in years, but recalled it quickly when you brought up mention (dang, where have the years gone?)

I now wonder how many of the rebuilt GRUMMANS (the ex-"EM-Tee-Yay" units) I might have ridden on, many, many years back, when riding the old "indy" routes in Hudson County?

I'd STILL take one today, over an insipid NABI or a slithering "Wurlitzer Wannabe"..............(!!)

"NYO"

["GRUMMAN"]

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Just curious.........

Were the "Torpedoes" running on "stoa" routes longer than either the Fishbowl or the "Dangerfield"?

Which of the three had the longest "soivice" time, running for "stoa"?

"NYO"

["Rapid Transit Series"]

["GM"]

["FLXIBLE"]

[W.B. Fishbowl]

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W.B.:

Thanks for the info.

Sad that the "no respect" Flex New Looks (aka "Dangerfields") had the shortest tour of duty with "stoa" than their counterparts.

BUT, then again, how about those unique 5106 "Kramdens", which were pulled from "soivice" after only about 11 or so years on the road?

Dang, those buses were just about well broken in, when they were put out to pasture..........

"NYO"

["OA"]

[W.B. Fishbowl]