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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
I noticed that as well; too bad all four tracks are not used for revenue service.
Recall the one "special service" that ran out to Stillwell Avenue only on "sunny, summer Sundays", running from Chambers Street, over the Manhattan Bridge, then out along the 4th Avenue line, then express from 59th Street to Coney Island, on the "See-Beech" express tracks.
This unique run was abandoned in 1954.............
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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This photo dates from from 2008, taken at the "8th Avenue" station on the "See-Beech"; note how overgrown the one track is at this location.
The station almost looks partially abandoned, with all the weeds and assorted greenery nearly covering the track.
Note also the long-ago filled in station windows......
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?89901
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:49 am Post subject: |
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"Eyewitness News Mornings At 10" featured a report on "the hottest subway stations in the city; ironically, ALL the stations were virtually all "Eye-En-Dee"!
Stock footage showed (briefly) a "Brightliner" pulling out out of a station, and a few shots of "R-62s" (aka "Silverbirds")
There was also an interesting report by N.J. Burkett on the "El-Eye-Double-Are's" increasing issues with fare-beaters; footage showed "M-7"s (underground views as well); also, l as a great (too brief!) cab view (recalling the RFW of old) from a express speeding through a local stop.
"Harlem/Hudson" line "M-7" also glimpsed.
Also stock footage showing a NH "M-3" at Stamford...............
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 58 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 3592 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | This photo dates from from 2008, taken at the "8th Avenue" station on the "See-Beech"; note how overgrown the one track is at this location.
The station almost looks partially abandoned, with all the weeds and assorted greenery nearly covering the track.
Note also the long-ago filled in station windows......
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?89901
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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Too bad it's illegal to cross tracks, otherwise you'd have a Brooklyn "High Line" out there . . . |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
I hear you, friend
Speaking of tracks/routings, when the Chrystie Street connection opened in 1967 (and what pandemonium ensued in the days afterwards!), IMHO, I think it was quite foolish for the "Powers That Be" disconnected the Nassau Loop from the tracks on the Manhattan Bridge.
A great deal of operational flexibility was lost (IMHO) as a result of these tracks being disconnected.
One can still easily picture all four tracks on the "See-Beech" being utilized; two outer tracks for locals, and the two inner tracks for expresses.
Recall, also, the re-configuration of the interlocking at De Kalb Avenue in 1958, which also eliminated the Myrtle Avenue stop.......
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
VERY detailed page on the abandoned "Bee-Em-Tee" station at Myrtle Avenue (the disused platforms at De Kalb Avenue are also highlighted here)
Excellent, detailed article; also, many photos (including early construction photos), trackplans, maps, mosaics, etc..............
www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/myrtle.html
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Another abandoned station worthy of mention is the lower level at Bergen Street (here again is another highly-detailed, interesting page, w/photos, track plans, etc)..............
www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/bergenst.html
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 58 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 3592 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:20 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | Another abandoned station worthy of mention is the lower level at Bergen Street (here again is another highly-detailed, interesting page, w/photos, track plans, etc)..............
www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/bergenst.html
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This was the only station to have the 'X' (for spelling out the stairway leading to the 'EXPRESS TRAINS') as Squire Vickers and his design team intended, that was part of the font variant used:
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?148093
(courtesy nycsubway.org)
I presume the 'X' to spell out 'EXCH PL' on the "Bee-Em-Tee's" Broad Street station as originally tiled was "close but no cigar" - as certainly the 'X' (as spelling out 'EXIT') in the two "El-Eye-Double-Are" stations built in the late 1930's and opened in 1942, East New York (still operational) and Woodhaven (long abandoned), certainly was - never mind Brandon Sugiyama's approximations.
I also presume, when the tiles were on the express level, the stairs going up had 'LOCAL TRAINS' pointing thereto? |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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W.B. Fishbowl
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Funny . . . that first, asterisked one, I'd put up! Talk about great minds thinking alike . . . |
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W.B. Fishbowl
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 11:32 am Post subject: |
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The catwalks on the second photo show how that section was built with 20 ducts buried inside said bench. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 11:40 am Post subject: |
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W.B.:
Indeed, great (older!) minds DO think alike, for certain!
You mentioned the ducts; subway ventilation form decades ago is yet another fascinating subway-related topic that few seldom discuss, or even think of.
I've always been interested in seeing the original ventilation grills in the stations on all three divisions; there are many interesting variations, if one but looks closely to his underground surroundings......
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