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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:11 pm Post subject: NOT a "Noo Yawk" subway/old lighting/signs/buses |
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HAD to post this link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmelit (the Haifa subway)
This "subway" is the only one operating in Israel; it first opened in the late 1950s, and is a unique combination of "subway" and "funicular" (be sure to check out the photo gallery; a few rare photos show the original rolling stock and station scenes from the 1950s and 1960s)
Note also how the interiors of the cars (like the platforms) are "stepped";(photos of station entrances/kiosks are also included)....
"NYO"
Note:
The "red trains" seen in these photos have since been replaced with newer rolling stock................
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:07 am Post subject: |
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News note...........
The "Carmelit" had suffered a serious fire back in 2017.
It was then decided to rebuild and revamp the line with new rolling stock and as well as a new main cable.
This unique "subway" re-opened back in 2022...........
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2592 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'm wondering if anyone in the "Em-Tee-Yay" are taking notes on this system . . . or not . . . |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | I'm wondering if anyone in the "Em-Tee-Yay" are taking notes on this system . . . or not . . . |
W.B.:
They say "great minds think alike"; I was thinking much along the same lines as yourself.
Though the fact that that this miniscule "subway" is both inclined and operated by cable traction, making it quite unique, the use of cable power underground is not at all new.
The tiny, almost toy-like trains of Glasgow's subway (today known as the "Clockwork Orange") were originally hauled by cable, but were electrified in 1935.
The original "Dinky Toy" trains (aka "The Tiny Tubes") were especially long-lived, running through the 1970s......
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Here's an interesting page on the Glasgow Subway...........
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Subway
Interestingly, the system is known as the "SUBWAY" (in Great Britain, that term describes an underground pedestrian passageway), indeed QUITE a "Yankee" terminology.
Too, note that the newest, third-generation Stadler rolling stock (which I've dubbed "The Quartermass", indeed recall mutated serpents from an alien planet ....Mars, perhaps? (Hey, Indiana Jones, better have that whip handy!)
All kidding aside, this is an interesting little "system" with a lot of history......
"NYO"
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Important to recall, also, that the original "Bridge Railway" trains that crossed the Brooklyn Bridge prior to the electrification of the then-expanding El network were also hauled by cable across the span (cars were switched at Park Row and Sands Street by small Forney engines)............
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?52469
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116196
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
["TO BROOKLYN"]
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting photo gallery of the Glasgow Subway's rolling stock*, past and present............
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Subway_rolling_stock
["GOVAN"]
*(interesting to note that the older trains were built by "METRO-CAMMEL"; this long-established British company once built hundreds of car bodies for several generations of London tube stock, as well as building thousands of bus bodies (for London and elsewhere).........
"NYO"
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Here in "Noo Yawk", of course, the only cable-operated transit venue is the Roosevelt Island Tramway......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt_Island_Tramway
This was also, interestingly enough, the last transit operation in the city to use tokens.
The original "gondolas" have since been replaced with newer versions.
In these photos, note, also, part of the surviving steelwork that, until 1942, carried 2nd Avenue El trains across the East River............
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?54752 *
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?149786
*(An RTS can also just be glimpsed in this photo)
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
["ROOSEVELT ISLAND"]
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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When the Roosevelt Island Tramway opened in 1976...........
The "Em-Tee-Yay's bus fleet was comprised of Fishbowls ("Jetsons" and "Bullets") and "Dangerfields".
The "Little Red Bus That Could" was still in operation, as were the now-defunct Queens independents
SMEE equipment ruled the rails of the "Eye-Are-Tee", and there were still a number of prewar "Anines" still running, mostly on the BMT (until 1978).
The old "Bee-Em-Tee" Jamaica El was still in use, but would be closed the following year, 1977.
It would still be several years before the first RTS entered the MTA fleet; likewise, the R-62s would not begin to enter service for some years yet.
Many subway and elevated stations still had old-style change booths, wooden turnstiles, and incandescent lighting; classic signage then abounded.
The Mets were still playing at Shea, and the LIRR was still offering parlor car service........
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