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MaBSTOA 15
Age: 70 Joined: 27 Feb 2013 Posts: 1060
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:11 pm Post subject: Surface Transit New Looks |
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Two views of rather new Surface Transit GM TDH-5301.
Note the vintage Johnson coffee grinder, model D, fare box on number 3175.
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 22970 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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EXCELLENT (and indeed nostalgic!) photos-------REAL buses for sure! It's always odd to see a SURFACE bus painted in ANYTHING but the traditional ST paint; the new paint-indeed-would be "in sync" with FACL (would be interesting-had SURFACE stayed independent) alsopurchased "Dangerfields"! Again-THANK YOU for posting these EXCELLENT old photos (Ahhh-if only we could go back to those days!) "NYO"
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2478 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Funny . . . FACL's "Jetsons" had Grant Electrofarer fareboxes.
But . . . notice, all those initial "Jetsons" for both FACL and Surface had 3-piece rear windows. A few may've been retroconverted to 4-piece within their last years of service. But indeed, FACL owned Surface at this point, so it figured they'd both share the same green-and-cream paint scheme. Remember, both entities' last "Shermans" had the same layout design for the exteriors, as did ST's last "Pattons."
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 22970 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:22 am Post subject: |
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WB: As Your's Truly has stated in the past-the antique toy Fishbowls I own-all depict both three and four-windows at the rear; one rare battery-op Fishbowl that's in Your's Truly's collection is a real "rare bird"--------featuring a sedan door-a rounded rear-and "Rocky Brill-boa" type windows!!!! (AND and a/c unit at the rear!) The legend "AIR CONDITIONED" is carried on the sides--------PLUS a QUITE realistic front end! "NYO"
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2478 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Another thing about #3175 . . .
. . . as late as 1960, the color scheme on the roll signs were the reverse of FACL's lot: red for route numbers, black for end destination signs. Even with them mylar from Transign.
I do wonder where the picture of #3185 . . .
. . . was taken, though. I know at least the first 15 of the allotted ST "Jetsons" were assigned to Amsterdam where they ran on M-104 and M-106 buses, thus within the "tonier" sections of Manhattan.
It also begs as to why some pics of the ST "Jetsons," in their later years under " 'stoa," had the route numbers on the right side of the front sign.
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 22970 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:38 am Post subject: |
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WB: Good call! I had noticed the roller curtain colors also; way way back in the "olden days"-a lot of "Joisey" buses (particularly the suburbans) would use a "side" portion of the front roller curtain where the lettering was white on red (last I recall these were on the ex-ORANGE & BLACK Fishbowls-back in the 1980-s-before NJT sent these hard-working and still sleek buses out to pasture)--------"NYO"
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