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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

In Bob Gabrick's outstanding "GOING THE GREYHOUND WAY" there are a number of photos of the pre-743 "SUPERCOACH", namely, the "X-1" and the "719".

The "719", basically, was the "743"; note, though, the "719" featured three small rear windows (the "743" had two)

Too, if you look at the large "bug eye" windshields of the "X-1", you are reminded of the huge windshields used on the AEROCOACH.....

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a rare view of a "TORONTO GREYHOUND LINES" 743......

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/558516791278678513/

["TORONTO GREYHOUND LINES"]
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can easily picture this formidable, handsome, stylish, and sleek 1935 ACF (Greyhound) wearing the smart, eye-catching colors of "INTER-CITY", "ORANGE & BLACK", or "RED & TAN", or PSNJ...... Wink

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/369928556883369041/

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Just came across this INCREDIBLE page on the rare FITZJOHN.....

https://myntransportblog.wordpress.com/2013/12/13/buses-and-more-fitzjohn-dittmar-muskegon-michigan-usa/

Fantastic collection of rare old photos, ads, etc (transit buses, highway coaches, sightseeing buses, and more!) Wink

Be sure to note the photos of the handsome and sleek "Road Runner" ("QUEEN CITY TRAILWAYS"/"SOUTHERN STAGES"); it's obvious that some 4104 influence was incorporated here! Very Happy

Enjoy!

"NYO"

["FITZJOHN"]


Great find! Thanks for posting!

Have you seen this one? The Roadrunner reminds me a little of the Mack 97-D somewhat, which was really a Beck design since Mack acquired C D Beck...
https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/35258-mack-beck-inter-city-buses/
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

You are quite welcome! Wink

Yes, I've seen this unusual coach before; for obvious reasons, I've dubbed it "the backwards/forwards 4104"; the rearward-slanting windows give the bus the look of a bus in an animated cartoon, when the driver slams on the brakes, and you would see the body slant rearwards! Shocked

Seriously, I agree; I am also reminded a bit of the MACK 97-D.

Regarding forward-slanting windows on highway coaches, these first became the style when they were introduced on the FLXIBLE "Clippers".

Such windows became commonplace on transit buses, with the introductions of the GM Fishbowl and the FLXIBLE New Look.

Also, PREVOST also utilized these style windows on a small group of Fishbowl-inspired transit buses for British Columbia Hydro in 1965; PREVOST highway coaches, beginning in the 1950's, ditto.......

"NYO"

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of "imitation being the sincerest form of flattery"..... Wink

This classic 1950's PREVOST is, indeed, a virtual clone of a contemporary Flex........ Very Happy

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/453174781235914386/

["PREVOST"]
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beginning in the late 1940's, PREVOST began building transit buses that were quite similar to ACF/CCF-BRILLS.....

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/531213718529431878/

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timeline for GREYHOUND in Canada, both on the highways and high above in the skyways......

https://explorenorth.com/library/bus/greyhound-history.html

["CANADIAN GREYHOUND LINES"]
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a very rare (circa-early 1930's) photo of the Pittsburgh depot for YELLOWAY and GREYHOUND.......

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/105271710026978536/

["YELLOWAY"]
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Timeline for GREYHOUND in Canada, both on the highways and high above in the skyways......

https://explorenorth.com/library/bus/greyhound-history.html

["CANADIAN GREYHOUND LINES"]


That is a very brief capsule history of GLC. I doesn't tell anything about ECGL, Eastern Canadian Greyhound Lines (formerly 'Toronto Greyhound Lines)', which was developed separately, perhaps as a subsidiary of the US company, which was physically separated from the rest of GLC, until they gained the route from Sudbury to Toronto. It was headquartered in London, Onatario, and its routes were between Detroit, Windsor, London to Hamilton, Toronto, Niagara Falls, and Buffalo.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Here's a very rare (circa-early 1930's) photo of the Pittsburgh depot for YELLOWAY and GREYHOUND.......

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/105271710026978536/

["YELLOWAY"]


Here's a more comprehensive site on the Pittsburgh Greyhound depots...
https://www.heinzhistorycenter.org/blog/western-pennsylvania-history/pittsburghs-streamline-deco-greyhound-bus-station

Especially on the Art Deco terminal that replaced that one in 1937. Also, the one I recall best...the one that replaced it in 1959. It was built catty-corner, across the intersection and itself was remodeled extensively in 2008. It still exists, but is a "white elephant", vastly underused by the shadow of what used to come thru that vital EGL hub. I wonder for how much longer, as Flix seems to be closing most GL depots, in favor of "curbside" operation.

Sad, indeed.... Sad

The photo's reproduce better from this site. It says it was taken in 1929.
https://www.heinzhistorycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/GB02_CLP_BR160_bb.jpg

https://www.heinzhistorycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/GS08_HC-MSP_285_B002_F017_I02_bb.jpg

https://www.heinzhistorycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/GB01_March-13-1937-PPG-p10-AD_bbG.jpg

https://www.heinzhistorycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/GB03_715.3011875.CP_-1024x734.jpg

https://www.heinzhistorycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/GB05_01_8d32836a.jpg

https://www.heinzhistorycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/GB04_commonw-Grey-ext-1024x615.jpg

https://www.heinzhistorycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/GB07_8d32953u_Center.jpg

https://www.heinzhistorycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/GB09_16_8d32893u.jpg

The one I remember...

https://www.heinzhistorycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/GB10_PC3-FrankW_bb-1024x695.jpg

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143182062368


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

Thanks for the link; will enjoy this later! Wink

We often tend to overlook "curbside" loading GREYHOUND/TRAILWAYS terminals/stations, in favor of the facilities where the buses themselves (like the passengers) were sheltered from the elements.

Personally, what ever remains of The Hound's once-vast network today (not to mention lines once operated by TRAILWAYS and "regional" carriers) I feel are going to be cut back even more, or, eventually, eliminated altogether. Sad

With AMTRAK barely beyond skeletal these days, and intercity bus lines also disappearing, we now have many areas of this country that no longer have any long-distance rail or bus transportation......a far cry from what things were like, 60 years ago...... Sad

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I added a few more photo links to Pittsburgh...

As you might have guessed, Wink , I am particularly fond of that location, with many great memories of that wonderful city, and its transportation infrastructure... Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

You're the man for the following......

In the classic Gregory Peck film, "TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD", the story is set in a fictional town in Alabama, during the early/mid-1930's.

What GREYHOUND lines would have served Alabama, back in those days?

Regionals?

In Glen Campbell's autobio, "RHINESTONE COWBOY", he describes the long bus journey from Delight, Arkansas, to Casper, Wyoming, in the early 1950's, involving many transfers, and taking three days to complete.

Again, am interested what companies might Glen and his uncle might have traveled by.

From "A BUS OF MY OWN" (Jim Lehrer)......

".....TRANS STATE TRAILWAYS (in Newton, Kansas, their buses stopped at a cab stand) had gone bankrupt, trying to replace some of the Kansas routes abandoned by Greyhound and Trailways in the late 70's and early 80's....."

Any info on TRANS STATE?

As always, greatly appreciate your always detailed input......Wink

"NYO"


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver wrote:
I added a few more photo links to Pittsburgh...

As you might have guessed, Wink , I am particularly fond of that location, with many great memories of that wonderful city, and its transportation infrastructure... Smile


Remember, too, that, until the 1960's, Pittsburgh was still very much a STREETCAR city, rostering the (AFAIK) then-largest fleet of PCC's in the country......

"NYO"

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