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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an excellent page (w/many good photos) "THE NEW YORK STUBWAYS: REMNANTS OF LONG-GONE ELEVATED LINES".

Much interesting history, here........

https://forgotten-ny.com/2001/02/the-new-york-stubways-remnants-of-long-gone-elevated-lines/
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remains of Brooklyn's Lexington Avenue El.......

https://forgotten-ny.com/2012/11/lexington-avenue-el-brooklyn/
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting photos on this page (El and buses)........

https://boweryboogie.com/2019/12/revisiting-the-last-days-of-the-third-avenue-el/
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BMT's Fresh Pond yard, over the years, has seen a tremendous variety of rolling stock, both elevated and subway......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?115106

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?113221

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?159131

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?113382

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?69101

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a strong sense, the BRT (BMT) set the stage, if you will, for the debut of the IND in the early 1930's.

The new BRT 67-foot "Standards" were the forerunner of longer, wider subway rolling stock, which would become the standard fror the cars that would later run on BMT and IND rails.

That many areas of Brooklyn in 1915 (when the first "Standards" entered service) were quite suburban in nature, was reflected in the new subway cars, which were more atkin to the suburban commuter MU cars already in use on the main line railroads.

These early cars even had window shades, also keeping in sync with the commuter rolling stock of that era.

Unlike the Vistorian-era IRT with its mosaics and cast-iron kiosks, and the BMT, with its conglomeration of subway, elevated, and streetcar operation, the City-owned IND represented the very acme of modern subway engineering and operation....

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a train of shiny, new "Standards" waiting to enter service on the BRT, in 1915; these cars appeared (and were) quite quite huge indeed, compared to the shorter, narrower INTERBOROUGH equipment of that era......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?45947

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the new IND Fulton line station at Euclid Avenue opened in the late 1940's, it was quite a state-of-the-art facility, also marking the first use of florescent lighting in a New York subway station; its interlocking tower, also, was quite modern for that time......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?58053

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?130986

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where have the years gotten to?

Today, in 2022.....

The very last of the iconic IRT "Redbirds" have now been out of revenue service for 19 years.

The last prewar IND cars have now been gone for 45 years.

The venerable R-10's have now been gone 23 years.

Last BMT Standards and the few remaining prewar IRT cars disappeared from revenue service 53 years ago.

The famed "Brightliners" have also, sadly, now have passed into history......

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As mentioned here previously, the very last prewar subway cars ran in revenue service in 1977.

The prewar IND cars, ironically, ended their revenue service days assigned to the BMT.

The R-1's entered service in 1932, when the IND first opened; the virtually identical R-9's ("Arnines" to many fans) entered service in 1940, when the new IND 6yh Avenue line opened.

These venerable, battle-scarred old cars were the very last in service with incandescent lighting and ceiling fans.

They were also the last trains in service equipped with air whistles; they were also the last with classic-era "growling" motors, a sound so characteristic of the subways for many decades.

A long and colorful era, indeed, had sadly ended......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?35037

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1954

(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

August, 1983, marked the end for the last prewar rapid transit cars in regular use in the United States.

The last remaining prewar cars on Philadelphia's Broad Street Subway were replaced with new cars built in Japan.

The oldest BSS cars dated to the Subway's opening in 1928; the newest dated to 1938, making the newest cars contemporaries of the newer of the prewar IND cars.

The last of the prewar IND cars were retired in 1977, six years prior to the retirement of the old BSS cars......

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.......today, in 2022, there are what LOOK to be "Els", but are basically extensions of subway lines, in the Bronx, Queens, and Brooklyn.

The old INTERBOROUGH and BMT elevated lines were "independent" systems unto themselves.

Unlike the more modern subways, the elevated cars were of wooden construction, instead of steel.

The original elevated lines were not strong enough to handle the more modern steel cars then coming into vogue.

The Bronx section of the 3rd Avenue El, which closed in 1973, was the very last surviving remnant of the old INTERBOROUGH elevated lines that once slithered and snaked their sinewy way through Manhattan.

Back in the 1930's and 1940's, few things "set the stage" for a movie scene set in New York, than an IRT subway kiosk, or a rattling, rumbling elevated train, threading its way through the crowded tenements and billowing clothesline of old "Noo Yawk"........

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