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traildriver
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2462 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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traildriver wrote: | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | In the course of this discussion, I've talked much about the old IRT and BMT elevated lines; none of the Manhattan Els survive today, and, even in Brooklyn, many El lines have long since-vanished, with little or nothing remaining. |
True enough, but there is this...as close to an "El" as you're going to get in Manhattan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/125th_Street_station_(IRT_Broadway%E2%80%93Seventh_Avenue_Line)#/media/File:122ndStreetPortal1train.jpg
Of course, you also have the Metro North Park Avenue viaduct, with its 125th Street Station, even less an 'El'.... |
Somehow, the link I provided did not bring out the photo I wanted, so will try it again here...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/122ndStreetPortal1train.jpg |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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traildriver:
GREAT PHOTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Recall, awhile back, I had told you that, for whatever reason, a wikipedia link that has parentheses in its "url" will not hotlink (I found that out for myself, quite awhile back)
Hard to believe that the R-62's are now nearly 40 years old; I remember there were a lot of photos in the New York papers at the time; personally, I thought, at the time, that were rather "ho-hum", and, to add insult to injury, were killing off my old, beloved R-12's/14's/15's (I rode these rattling old relics too many times to count on the IRT 7th Avenue expresses, back in the early 1980's)
Over the years, however, I have thought of an "El"-version of the R-62's for use on the Myrtle Avenue line, had it not been closed (and later demolished) in 1969.
Then again, the cars that WERE to be built for the Myrtle line (had it been retained) would have been the "R-39", which, from what I've read,. would have been smaller, scaled-down versions of the R-32's/38's.
Had they been built, they probably would have resembled Philadelphia's "Almond Joy" cars on the Market-Frankford El......
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Surrounded by a "sea of 62's" at the Corona Yards, this soon-to-be-retired "Redbird" is, indeed, the "odd one out" (this view also makes for an interesting contrast between the R-62's and the older SMEE equipment......
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?150157
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Photos, information, etc. on the subways during the 1980's, indeed, a turbulent, chameleon-kike decade for "the roarin' rails 'neath the streets of "Noo Yawk", in so many ways*.....
https://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/The_New_York_Transit_Authority_in_the_1980s
*Even with the crime, grit, grime, and graffiti, the subways still had a tremendous appeal for nostalgia-minded railfans: equipment from the 1940's and 1950's, abundant railfan windows, old-style change booths and turnstiles at many stations, old signage, etc.
I well remember the NY POST carrying a great illustrated article on the old R-10's ("Thunderbirds") being overhauled and painted green and silver......those old relics looked like REAL subway cars, and Your's Truly rode them too many times to count, back in the day!
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 9:47 am Post subject: |
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On this date in 1931.......
Culver line platforms are cut back to accommodate the operation of 10" foot steel subway cars......
"NYO"
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Here's some interesting subway/el trivia from Brian Cudahy's "UNDER THE SIDEWALKS OF NEW YORK"......
".....the final leg of the Second Avenue El, which ran between South Ferry and Queens Plaza (via the QB bridge), was phased out in 1942......"
"........The BMT's Mytle Avenue El, damaged by fire, was cut back from Park Row in Manhattan to Jay Street and Myrtle Avenue in Brooklyn; the removal of IRT tracks from the Queensboro Bridge served to isolate the Flushing and Astoria lines from the rest of the IRT....."
"......the BMT's Coney Island shops then became the major site for repairing the equipment of the IRT......."
When the last BMT El trains crossed the Brooklyn Bridge in 1944, the once-bustling, massive Park Row terminal (expanded several times over the decades) was but a mere shadow of its former self.
However, as we know, the B&QT's streetcars, radiating from the multiple, now-exposed Park Row loops, made their final runs over the BB in 1950; oddly enough, there were no bus substitutions, and the Brooklyn Bridge then became the only major East River crossing to be devoid of any mode of public transport......
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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This old postcard vividly re-creates the days when bumper-to-bumper streetcars and a steady parade of El trains made the Brooklyn Bridge a thriving hub for electric rail transport.
Note the streetcars running on two levels, and the steel girderwork used as wire guides for the streetcars.
Hard to believe that, today, not a trace remains of either the complex elevated lines or the streetcars on the Bridge today......
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?116297
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 1:10 am Post subject: |
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Here's a rare view of the Park Row terminal's interior (1905), prior to its massive expansion (note the short platforms)
Recall, this terminal originally hauled cable-hauled "bridge trains", prior to the electrification of the elevated lines, which were eventually extended over the Brooklyn Bridge, into Manhattan.
Also, note the uncovered third rails, and the El cars equipped with trolley poles......
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?132299
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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