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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2411 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Some of these bus photos remind me of the old Chico Marx "nobody show up" routine in The Marx Brothers' Duck Soup film. Here that bus loses the MaBSTOA script and gains a large 'M' emblem without 'NEW YORK CITY' around it. (The shot around the 59th Street Bridge had a green bus without script or M emblem; some pics had both on a bus.) |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
I'm recalling an old saying, now:
".....feast or famine....."
From the hundreds of photos I have seen here in the galleries, IMHO, the most "bare bones" buses of all are the Fishbowls that lack the familiar "GM" trapezoid on the front dash.
The buses just seem "incomplete" without that familiar, iconic emblem......
"NYO" |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Here's another nostalgic "Baldie-Dash" Fishbowl portrait; here #8100, at Avenue H & Flatbush, is surrounded by a gallery of colorful old-school signage......
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154895
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2411 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Here and 8100 also had old c.1960 cloth roll signs at the front. So there was "ancient" in more ways than one.
But who could forget Carvel, anyway . . . |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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......cannot forget Carvel's "Fudgy The Whale" ice cream cake any more than I can forget Fishbowls....
Quick quetion:
Why were some Fishbowls devoid of "GM" emblems in later years?
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2411 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | ......cannot forget Carvel's "Fudgy The Whale" ice cream cake any more than I can forget Fishbowls....
Quick quetion:
Why were some Fishbowls devoid of "GM" emblems in later years?
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Didn't it have to do with the ad rack which covered where the GM emblem should have been? |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | ......cannot forget Carvel's "Fudgy The Whale" ice cream cake any more than I can forget Fishbowls....
Quick quetion:
Why were some Fishbowls devoid of "GM" emblems in later years?
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Didn't it have to do with the ad rack which covered where the GM emblem should have been? |
W.B.:
I've often wondered about that, myself.
In fact, I've long wondered if the removal of the "GM" emblem ever violated some sort of "copyright" with GM?
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Hart Bus
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:13 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: | ......cannot forget Carvel's "Fudgy The Whale" ice cream cake any more than I can forget Fishbowls....
Quick quetion:
Why were some Fishbowls devoid of "GM" emblems in later years?
"NYO" |
Not to forget Fudgy's sidekick "Cookie Puss" |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hart Bus:
Indeed!
And, of course, any CARVEL product ALWAYS tasted better if the shop allowed you to watch passing buses from their windows......
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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"Baldie-Dash" #6463 at Webster & Gun Hill Rd., 1974.
Even though the bus has been repainted two-tone blue, look CLOSELY and you can just make out the outline of the removed "GM" emblem......
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?154041
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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"Baldie-Dash " #8653, Riverside Drive & 120th, 1973.
Here, you can see the "GM" emblem has been removed, and, while there are mounting hooks (it appears one might be missing) in the dash for an ad rack, the rack itself is missing.....
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?156136
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Regarding the inquiry if the removal of the "GM" emblem from the dash of the Fishbowls might have violated some sort of copyright with GM.......
On the CRRNJ (Jersey Central) back in the late 50's and 60's, the railroad operated a number of RDC Budd cars in commuter service, and, for whatever reason, the railroad experimented with adding heavyweight coaches into an otherwise all-RDC consit.
This, of course, meant that electric and air connections had to be changed and adapted (recall, too, the heavyweight coaches were steam-heated)
For some reason, these mixed consists were dubbed "Sputnik" trains.
The CNJ operated these "Sputnik" trains for some time before they found themselves in hot water with BUDD; seems that they (the CNJ) was at fault for altering BUDD's equipment.
Needless to say. these unusual "Sputnik" trains disappeared from the CNJ's suburban rails; I am now wondering if the "Em-Tee-Yay" ever had any sort of issues regarding GM, in the removal of their insignia from the Fishbowl's dashes.....
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