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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 22675 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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....in my estimation, we can NEVER get ENOUGH old photos of FACCo New Looks; as we've commented on so many times before in our many related discussions here, it seems that, with the exception of us "die-hards", New Looks are almost totally ignored from any sort of "history" on the Company.
As New Looks have now been gone from the streets of "Noo Yawk" for over 20 years now, I truly feel that these once-futuristic buses have often been ignored by many in the hobby, and that, IMHO, it was not until these now-iconic buses entered their twilight years, that they really began to finally be appreciated for the stylish, classic, and rugged buses that served the traveling public for several decades.
Thanks, too, for sharing this NICE photo!
"NYO"
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2423 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Much obliged. 'Tis for this reason I bring these up, if I find a decent pic of such buses in operation.
ST 3175, meanwhile, was initially based out of Amsterdam, if its service on Rt. 104 - Broadway as in a 1962 pic taken at Times Square is of indication. (You'll have to search through Getty Images to get to that one.)
The FACL New Looks I've been able to ascertain in terms of what routes they plied (divvied by FACO Division, NYCO Division and Surface Transit; and what bus numbers I've seen used by what route, which should give you an idea as to where such buses were assigned) were:
- 3 - Fifth/Convent/St. Nicholas (A/C 5)
- 4 - Fifth Avenue/Fort Washington
- 5 - Fifth Avenue/Riverside Drive (A/C 3, A/C 4, 3104, 3123)
- 15 - Jackson Heights
- 1 - Fourth/Madison Avenues (A/C 10)
- 2 - Fourth/Madison Avenues (3110, 3143)
- 10 - Eighth Avenue/Central Park West (A/C 8, 3105, 3107, 3151)
- 16 - 34th Street Crosstown (3156)
- 104 - Broadway (3175)
- 106 - 42nd Street Crosstown (3172)
- Bx31 - Southern Boulevard (320?)
- Bx34 - 163rd Street Crosstown (3197)
. . . out of a total of 17 that was cited in a New York Times article in late 1960 as running these newer buses. Certainly the 10, which ran through the Great White Way, was certainly deemed important enough to have runs with these then-newies. Same for 104.
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 22675 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
Once again, thank you for taking the time to post still more historical documentation regarding the FACCo New look operations/assignments.
Again, as I know I have stated many times previously here, the New Looks were as much a part of FCCO's history as were the famed double-deckers; in fact, the New Look could well be well regarded as "The Lost Bus Of Fifth Avenue".
From: WELCOME ABOARD THE GM NEW LOOK BUS" (McKane/Squier):
".......on October 2, 1959, Fifth Avenue Coach Lines, Inc. exhibited its "Bus Of The Future" to a group of city officials headed by Mayor Robert Wagner. One sneering NYCTA employee, who was also present, sneered: 'Bus Of The Future my eye! It's the same wayward bus we brought here from Pontiac three or four months ago, and then returned it to General Motors after our crews inspected it. That bus had been laid up in New Jersey until Fifth Avenue got a hold of it, and brought it here'........."
"NYO"
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MaBSTOA 15
Age: 70 Joined: 27 Feb 2013 Posts: 1059
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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This is an interesting 1961 photo...
a) The two tone taxi are no longer around
b) Best and Company is defunct
c) Everyone, including tourist, were well dressed (no jeans; no t-shirts; no shorts!)
d) The street sign are no longer yellow nor do they have two names on one
e) Great looking 1959 Impala
f) The Fifth Avenue Coach New Look is an air conditioned bus followed by a square window TDH-4507
... All gone to history books!
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traildriver
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2460 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Great shot!
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 22675 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Aaaaaaaaahhhhh, when society STILL took PRIDE in their appearances, BUSES still looked like BUSES, and taxicabs came in every color of the proverbial rainbow!!!!
Man, this is JUST how I remember the city, when I was just a tyke!!!
MANY THANKS for posting this AWESOME photo........the nostalgia simply OOZES out!!!!!!!!!
"NYO"
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2423 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:08 am Post subject: |
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I put this in another thread, but will put it here too: FACL "Fishbowl" #3107, running on Rt. 10 along Eighth Avenue in 1960, having passed the Port Authority Bus Terminal as was consituted then and heading towards 42nd Street . . .
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FACL #3107 on Route #10, Eighth Avenue towards 42nd Street, 1960 (For educational purposes only.) |
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traildriver
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2460 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Another great shot...show's the scene that was still there when I went to work at "The Port" in 1968...
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 22675 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Ahhhhh, memories...........way, way back, when "PABT" did NOT stand for "Perpetually Aggravating Bus Terminal", and loooong before what was once "The Most Beautiful Bus Terminal In The World" somehow morphed into one of the ugliest buildings in New York.......ahhh, progress......
"NYO"
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traildriver
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2460 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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The Port did have its moments of "glamour"...when they rolled out the red carpet, for the daily departure of Continental Trailways' Golden Eagle, offering Five Star Luxury Service, to California!
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 22675 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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traildriver wrote: | The Port did have its moments of "glamour"...when they rolled out the red carpet, for the daily departure of Continental Trailways' Golden Eagle, offering Five Star Luxury Service, to California! |
traildriver:
You said it, my friend!
Long-distance bus travel at its very FINEST, to be sure!
To go "off-topic" for a moment, here, "BIG RED" outdid "The Hound" with "Red Carpet, 5 Star" services and airline-style hostesses!
Hard to believe that such grandeur and elegance still existed in our day.......(!!)
"NYO"
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