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TA Bus Routes in Manhattan

 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:35 pm    Post subject: TA Bus Routes in Manhattan Reply with quote

In 1971 NYCTA's Manhattan Bus Division had five routes operating out of the 126th Street Depot. Here is the roll curtain for said period


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W.B. Fishbowl



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As TA side roll signs mentioned where these routes went as opposed to the route descriptions of MaBSTOA, I'd presume that either non-batwing or batwing side signs would have had the exact layout / wording as that front sign. One wonders how this front sign would have looked on any "loaned" Flxible F2D6V-401-1's (either among the 5001-5165 set or 5601-5790), given that one person recalled only one of the buses (presumably in the 5000's) once plodding along an M-15.

It also begs what a pre-1971 front roll sign may've looked like, given the sixth route that by then was gone - M-13 Journal Building shuttle, a.k.a. M-15S (the S supposedly signalling South Street). Which in TA transcripts from 1967 was described as a branch of the regular M-15.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As well, here's an example of that front roll sign sign in action - installed on #2161 running on Rt. M15 at 125th Street and Second Avenue (showing the '...TO 126 ST.' part) on a winter's day in February 1972 (as always, courtesy nycsubway.org) . . .

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153273

Notice in the background the 'Citgo' / 'Cities Service' sign, peering out in the background from across the river over in the Bronx atop 20 Bruckner Boulevard. That time / temperature display was installed in 1962 and remained until the mid-1970's. It was a 12 x 17 matrix numeral display (more than the 9 x 14 of the Dime Savings Bank's time/temp display on DeKalb Avenue in Brooklyn - and of course the usual 6 x 9 numeral matrix of MONY building, Bulova time displays, ex-Watchtower Building in Brooklyn . . . ). Very few pics are online that show that sign in close-up. Later on Kent cigarettes, then Newport Lights and finally The History Channel advertised up on that roof; today it's iHeart Radio.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.....I would do ANYTHING (shy of extortion or murder!) to nab that roll sign for my collection......DANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Seriously, fellows "not-in-the-know" have no idea of just how valuable the readings are on such vintage roll signs.....think of just how much the bus picture has changed in "Noo Yawk" over the course of some 60-odd years.......

"NYO"
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