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rwilenker · Age: 63 Joined: 06 Nov 2010 Posts: 14

A question about former Public Service route 108 posed to me on a facebook Jersey City group.

Pictured as a trolley pulls into the Summit Avenue station in Jersey City, Public Service buses line up for passengers. It looks like the 108 destined for Newark is furthest down. It is remembered the line always used a different model bus than the others. Any thoughts about this?

It is hard to tell, especially with the brightness and angles, but the slope of the tops and last window on the second and third buses may look different.

Wanted to reach out to the bus historians here for any insight. Thanks.

rwilenker · Age: 63 Joined: 06 Nov 2010 Posts: 14

The '!' in the url appears to prevent the hyperlink from completing.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=571499432862411&set=oa.310811042267444&type=1&theater

Ugh. Sorry for making this difficult.

ripta42 · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:24 am Post subject:

Photo is fixed. Unfortunately I can't answer the question Smile

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NorthShore · Age: 76 Joined: 18 Mar 2012 Posts: 113

Regarding the photo of the Summit Avenue Station in Jersey City, the bus parked farthest down is definitely an A.C.F.-Brill. The only order of postwar A.C.F.-Brills that Public Service had were eighteen C-44 Suburbans of 1947 (fleet nos. A-900-917). That's probably one of them assigned to interstate route 108.

N4 Jamaica · Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 858 Location: Long Island

Thanks for posting the photo of the Journal Square streetcar and bus loop. I rode the Jackson car, which visited that loop both Hoboken-bound and Greenville-bound. I had forgotten that Public Service had a Newark-NY route before the Turnpike was constructed. Nowadays, 108 bypasses Jersey City and is hourly.
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The street at the rear of the photo is Sip Avenue. Summit Avenue crosses the railroad a block east. It seems that in the 1920's, Summit Avenue H&M station was renamed for the new Journal Square, named after the Jersey Journal newspaper.

mike022756 · Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:35 pm Post subject:

traildriver · Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2459 Location: South Florida

IIRC, back around 1968 or so, the PS route 118 ran express from The Port to Newark, and the route 108 ran local. IIRC, the 108 even used the Holland Tunnel at that time, so it ran thru Manhattan, (not sure of the actual route used), and whether or not it made any other stops in Manhattan after leaving The Port.

andy47 · Joined: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 96 Location: New York State

The PS #108, if I remember correctly, used 7th Ave. and Varick Street southbound from the PABT to the Holland Tunnel. Northbound I believe it used Church Street and 6th Ave. northbound to the PABT. Stops were made at some key crosstown streets - Canal, 14th, 23d, 34th.

The #118 was a very heavy hauler in the 1960s with buses every 6 - 8 minutes all day, even on weekends. Fare was 35 cents, then 40 cents in the early 1960s. The PATH fare remaining at 30 cents for many years hurt the #118's ridership and even provoked TNJ (Public Service's successor company) to file a lawsuit against the Port Authority for collecting a fee for each bus that used the PABT while allegedly using those funds to subsidize PATH. I used the #118 on a regular basis from 1977 to 1980 and by the fare was 90 cents, then $1, then went as high as $1.45 after 1980. It payable only in exact coins in a Johnson farebox (no more NCR registers).